does trinidad cheat?

[Xecutioner]

first i think the handwrapping arguments are b.s. how can someone get away with illegally wrapping their for 10+ years. joppy has to make excuses for the way he just got knocked around in that fight. same with vargas' fans. people make the argument of "how come hopkins wasnt knocked around like vargas and joppy were?" . well that is obvious, hopkins didnt come into the fight looking to trade with his hands down. he moved well and did a great job of staying away from trinidads main weapon, the left hook all night by constantly circling left and not letting tito plant his feet and unload. hopkins also has a better chin than either one of them do. one punch at a time isnt going to ko hopkins and thats the most hopkins ever allowed tito to get at any time in the fight

[xoalvinox]

It's funny how Joppy cries about this EVERY single moment he gets on media time. He was blitzed and it was clearly an equivalent to a lobotamy.

[Invader_Stu]

I just wanted to point out to the people 'OMG as if he could get away with cheating all this time' that the same could be said for the number of olympic athletes that have been caught lately. They got away with it for years, and no-one was the wiser. Sure they got busted, but you think theres still 10:1 athletes that still havent been caught?

My point being, I think you are naive to think that just because they havent been caught, doesnt mean they are people who arent illegally wrapping/cheating. I am not implicating Tito in this whatsoever, the only way to know is to physically check his wrapping before and after every fight - something none of us are going to do are we?

But by all means.. continue speculating

[Xecutioner]

joppys greatest hits

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[xoalvinox]

How can they "cheat?"
When the gloves are wrapped, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their a member from both the Athletic Commission and opposing boxer's team overlooking the whole process of having the fighter's hand wrapped?
The Athletic Commission signs off on the gloves after it is wrapped, so unless there is some sort of collusion or corruption going on, plus in addition to the fact that a member from the other fighter's team watching the whole process, it would be hard for them to "cheat."
Now you can throw in the possibilities that the member from the AC may be a rookie on the job or the trainer wraps a few extra rounds on the knuckles unnoticed; endless possibilities.

I stand firm on my opinion that this issue is.....inconclusive.

[triggerhappy]

he uses his elbows alot too

[xoalvinox]

joppys greatest hits

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Look at that grill...Seems like 500 bees stung him simultaneously.

[jujitsujn]

Tito has power regardless of the way his hands are wrapped. That being said, if they were wrapped illeagally...(tape across the knuckles)...then it would definetly make your punch more solid, leading to harder and faster knockouts.

[Eman]

Hopkins was just playing mind games with trinidad and it was in ring magazine that hopkins only got hit with one good left hook and he said it did hurt.

[Exciterx30]

Hopkins was just playing mind games with trinidad and it was in ring magazine that hopkins only got hit with one good left hook and he said it did hurt.

Do you know where I could find that article on the net now?