What BS will the haters come up with after Floyd beats Pac?

[HandSpeed303]

You wanna give some more excuses for other former champions that Floyd has beat like Castillo, Baldomir, Judah, & Manfreddy? I am sure you could keep going on.

You have it twisted. I was just giving examples of what you were talking about, but that doesn't make them not true.

I think another poster said it already, but you also need to look at the other side of the fence.

What if Pac wins?....Just imagen the stuff Floyd fans will come up with...We have already seen examples in the past weak.

[Left Hook Tua]

You have a hot dog as your avatar & a quote by Dan the blimp Rafael as your sig. Seriously. How fat are you?

it's a pig on a sausage , you ****!



i'm not fat. i'm husky.........

[oaba09]

If floyd beats pac then he's the best boxer in the world plain and simple.....I just want this fight made so that we can finally know who's the best...

[baCCaT]

You have a hot dog as your avatar & a quote by Dan the blimp Rafael as your sig. Seriously. How fat are you?

tuas so fat he doesnt walk... he log rolls..

[Left Hook Tua]

tuas so fat he doesnt walk... he log rolls..

be quiet , chang.

[SuperTrooper]

No BS cuz I guarantee Pac will win if they ever fought! I bet all my points!

[MANGLER]

Tua is just big boned.

[S A M U R A I]

The haters or truth tellers have come out with these theories if Pac beats floyd

12 reasons why pac is likely taking perfomance enhancement drugs:

1- Physique: Just recently Juan Manuel Marquez moved up alot of weight to fight Mayweather, Marquez unlike Pacman retained some water weight. He was muscular but not ripped as pacman who now looks like bruce lee. Boxer Kermit Cintron has said there is no way without some perfomance enhancement drugs can you gain over 20 pounds of muscle in such a short time. Even Duran, De La Hoya, and Mayweather didnt look that ripped.

2- He seems to get stronger with weight. If you look at pacman he was actually knock down 5 times at 126 and lower. He was knocked out twice by torrecampo and Singurat 3k batter, and was taken down by a stiff jab by Hussein at 122. But now he is willing to allow Cotto give him free body shots on the ropes. Cotto a man who can knockout a natural welter with ONE body shot and couldnt do any damage to pac with dozens. He had to go 12 rounds with Marquez twice, Larios, and Morales (1st fight) but now he can physically dominate naturally bigger fighters as David Diaz, De la hoya, Hatton, and Cotto.

3-Stamnia - Most fighters show fatigue and less sting in their punches in the late rounds. But pacman never shows any signs of that. in fact, the volume of punches get higher often. People say steroids hamper stamina for boxing. WRONG. If steroids don't help stamina why would pitchers like Clemens and Pettite take them if they decrease and not increase pitches thrown and innings pitched . In addition, these drugs help increase recovery time. Most importantly, pacman has been active for 15 years as a fighter and he never shows any effects of his tough fights. His energy seems to be get higher even after numerous slugfests. After Duran fought Hagler in a 15 round battle he had nothing left for Thomas Hearns and was knocked out in 2 rounds.

4-Head- His head seems to get bigger in proporation to his body. These are signs of HGH and other substances.

5- Designer Steroids can't be Traced- The fact is synthethic steroids as THG, Madol and Genabol can't be traced. There are also synthetic stimulants that can't be traced. So of course he hasen't tested positive. Futhermore, as boxer malginaggi said they dont check even the blood. That means HGH cant be traced, and even blood tests are limited in finding HGH. Morevoer,boxing dosent do random tests so the boxer can even cycle it out of the system before and after a fight. Cycling and Track and field give numerous random testing. In addition, they have a system in place where they can check for abnormalities in blood as hemoglobin, RBC,WBC, and Testesterone to see if designer drugs are being taken. The same can be said about stimulant and painkiller drugs used to have more energy and take pain. Many MMA Fighters have admitted taking painkillers used to take blows without being drowsy and never caught.

6-Never heard of Steroids: Manny has stated he never heard of steroids. That is both humorous and preposterous at once. I guess when they do his urine drug tests he thinks they are checking if he takes Flinstones Vitamins for kids or if he takes energy bars. Of course, HE KNOWS. They even have to sign papers with drug tests. That sounds very defensive to say i never heard of steroids.

7-No Wear Down: All fighters are human after numerous fights they start to show age and wear down. Pacman has been active for 15 years as a fighter and he never shows any effects of his tough fights. His energy seems to be get higher even after numerous slugfests. After Duran fought Hagler in a 15 round battle he had nothing left for Thomas Hearns and was knocked out in 2 rounds. Even Hagler after the Duran fight looked shaky with Roldan early on. He even had his only official knockdown on the 1st round. Although some will argue it was half slip and half punch. Pacman has had tough wars with Morales, Marquez, Sanchez, Barreras etc., yet he seems to be impervious to slowing down as a fighter. Hagler a very conditioned fighter definitely started to slow down after his fights with Duran, Hearns, and John Beast Mugabi. Hagler was very slow in the Leonard fight due to the constant wars he had. Ray Leonard was never knock down early in his career but was knockdown several times late in his career,

8- Top Rank doesent sue for Libel or Slander: Floyd Mayweather Jr and his father both have accused pacman of taking perfomance enhancing drugs. Bob Arum is an attorney why wouldnt he seek relief and damages for his top prize fighter's reputation being questioned? Because if top rank sues and they testify and its proven later that manny took drugs than they can go to jail for perjury. Some will say he wants to fight mayweather so he wont sue but other fighters as Kermit Cintron have already accused him. NO LAWSUIT yet. Even boxer Paulie Maglignaggi has suggested he is on PEDs on two occasions. Why not even a press conference denying it?

9-Philippine culture: This dosent sound politically correct but i know the culture, I been to the philippines. The country has a long history of corruption, scandals, and political wrong doing. The manila airport is the only major airport that charges a terminal fee for using their facility. Hotels are known to trump up charges on visitors. Manny knows the culture wells. The motivation is to make millions of dollars by cheating. If Manny stays at Featherweight and lower he wont make $10-$20 Million fight. He at best will be like Chris John of Indonesia a featherweight making at most $1 million a fight.

10- Character: Many people keep saying that Manny is a good Christian guy and his character wont allow him to cheat. Ask his wife Jenkie about that. She was loyal to him before he was a big star. Now it is revealed he has cheated likely numerous times. I personally dont care about his personal life. But it raises an interesting question? If a man is willing to cheat on a loyal wife and mother of his kids is it impossible to believe he would cheat in a sport to make millions?

11- Not overtrained after taking 8000 calories a day: Pacman takes 8000 calories a day to make weight. But he also needs to burn that, to burn all those calories without PEDs would be impossible without overtraining and having nothing left for the fight.

12-Defies Reality: Unfortunately, we have seen boxers as Vargas, Jones, Toney, Mosley get caught. We were foolish to believe that Mcgwire and Sosa hit 70 home runs and 66 home runs due to hard work and talent. Than Barry Bonds breaks the record a few years later, a record that couldnt be touch for nearly 40 years. Now we have a boxer that is Henry Armstrong with shocking power. When De La Hoya fought Hopkins at 160 he was KOd with one body punch. THe Great Jose Napoles couldnt handle the naturally bigger Monzon, Arguello couldnt finish Pryor on his quest for his 4th weight division crown. Now we have a Flyweight knocking out welters SO EASy. He is like a God. But he didnt look like a god before at 122. He is not a god. He is JUST JUICED UP

Good lord, get a ****ing life already.



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[Haterfree]

The haters or truth tellers have come out with these theories if Pac beats floyd

12 reasons why pac is likely taking perfomance enhancement drugs:

1- Physique: Just recently Juan Manuel Marquez moved up alot of weight to fight Mayweather, Marquez unlike Pacman retained some water weight. He was muscular but not ripped as pacman who now looks like bruce lee. Boxer Kermit Cintron has said there is no way without some perfomance enhancement drugs can you gain over 20 pounds of muscle in such a short time. Even Duran, De La Hoya, and Mayweather didnt look that ripped.

2- He seems to get stronger with weight. If you look at pacman he was actually knock down 5 times at 126 and lower. He was knocked out twice by torrecampo and Singurat 3k batter, and was taken down by a stiff jab by Hussein at 122. But now he is willing to allow Cotto give him free body shots on the ropes. Cotto a man who can knockout a natural welter with ONE body shot and couldnt do any damage to pac with dozens. He had to go 12 rounds with Marquez twice, Larios, and Morales (1st fight) but now he can physically dominate naturally bigger fighters as David Diaz, De la hoya, Hatton, and Cotto.

3-Stamnia - Most fighters show fatigue and less sting in their punches in the late rounds. But pacman never shows any signs of that. in fact, the volume of punches get higher often. People say steroids hamper stamina for boxing. WRONG. If steroids don't help stamina why would pitchers like Clemens and Pettite take them if they decrease and not increase pitches thrown and innings pitched . In addition, these drugs help increase recovery time. Most importantly, pacman has been active for 15 years as a fighter and he never shows any effects of his tough fights. His energy seems to be get higher even after numerous slugfests. After Duran fought Hagler in a 15 round battle he had nothing left for Thomas Hearns and was knocked out in 2 rounds.

4-Head- His head seems to get bigger in proporation to his body. These are signs of HGH and other substances.

5- Designer Steroids can't be Traced- The fact is synthethic steroids as THG, Madol and Genabol can't be traced. There are also synthetic stimulants that can't be traced. So of course he hasen't tested positive. Futhermore, as boxer malginaggi said they dont check even the blood. That means HGH cant be traced, and even blood tests are limited in finding HGH. Morevoer,boxing dosent do random tests so the boxer can even cycle it out of the system before and after a fight. Cycling and Track and field give numerous random testing. In addition, they have a system in place where they can check for abnormalities in blood as hemoglobin, RBC,WBC, and Testesterone to see if designer drugs are being taken. The same can be said about stimulant and painkiller drugs used to have more energy and take pain. Many MMA Fighters have admitted taking painkillers used to take blows without being drowsy and never caught.

6-Never heard of Steroids: Manny has stated he never heard of steroids. That is both humorous and preposterous at once. I guess when they do his urine drug tests he thinks they are checking if he takes Flinstones Vitamins for kids or if he takes energy bars. Of course, HE KNOWS. They even have to sign papers with drug tests. That sounds very defensive to say i never heard of steroids.

7-No Wear Down: All fighters are human after numerous fights they start to show age and wear down. Pacman has been active for 15 years as a fighter and he never shows any effects of his tough fights. His energy seems to be get higher even after numerous slugfests. After Duran fought Hagler in a 15 round battle he had nothing left for Thomas Hearns and was knocked out in 2 rounds. Even Hagler after the Duran fight looked shaky with Roldan early on. He even had his only official knockdown on the 1st round. Although some will argue it was half slip and half punch. Pacman has had tough wars with Morales, Marquez, Sanchez, Barreras etc., yet he seems to be impervious to slowing down as a fighter. Hagler a very conditioned fighter definitely started to slow down after his fights with Duran, Hearns, and John Beast Mugabi. Hagler was very slow in the Leonard fight due to the constant wars he had. Ray Leonard was never knock down early in his career but was knockdown several times late in his career,

8- Top Rank doesent sue for Libel or Slander: Floyd Mayweather Jr and his father both have accused pacman of taking perfomance enhancing drugs. Bob Arum is an attorney why wouldnt he seek relief and damages for his top prize fighter's reputation being questioned? Because if top rank sues and they testify and its proven later that manny took drugs than they can go to jail for perjury. Some will say he wants to fight mayweather so he wont sue but other fighters as Kermit Cintron have already accused him. NO LAWSUIT yet. Even boxer Paulie Maglignaggi has suggested he is on PEDs on two occasions. Why not even a press conference denying it?

9-Philippine culture: This dosent sound politically correct but i know the culture, I been to the philippines. The country has a long history of corruption, scandals, and political wrong doing. The manila airport is the only major airport that charges a terminal fee for using their facility. Hotels are known to trump up charges on visitors. Manny knows the culture wells. The motivation is to make millions of dollars by cheating. If Manny stays at Featherweight and lower he wont make $10-$20 Million fight. He at best will be like Chris John of Indonesia a featherweight making at most $1 million a fight.

10- Character: Many people keep saying that Manny is a good Christian guy and his character wont allow him to cheat. Ask his wife Jenkie about that. She was loyal to him before he was a big star. Now it is revealed he has cheated likely numerous times. I personally dont care about his personal life. But it raises an interesting question? If a man is willing to cheat on a loyal wife and mother of his kids is it impossible to believe he would cheat in a sport to make millions?

11- Not overtrained after taking 8000 calories a day: Pacman takes 8000 calories a day to make weight. But he also needs to burn that, to burn all those calories without PEDs would be impossible without overtraining and having nothing left for the fight.

12-Defies Reality: Unfortunately, we have seen boxers as Vargas, Jones, Toney, Mosley get caught. We were foolish to believe that Mcgwire and Sosa hit 70 home runs and 66 home runs due to hard work and talent. Than Barry Bonds breaks the record a few years later, a record that couldnt be touch for nearly 40 years. Now we have a boxer that is Henry Armstrong with shocking power. When De La Hoya fought Hopkins at 160 he was KOd with one body punch. THe Great Jose Napoles couldnt handle the naturally bigger Monzon, Arguello couldnt finish Pryor on his quest for his 4th weight division crown. Now we have a Flyweight knocking out welters SO EASy. He is like a God. But he didnt look like a god before at 122. He is not a god. He is JUST JUICED UP

I see your point. Barry Bonds is kind of like Floyd. A great Black athlete that all the haters hate but they swear it has nothing to do with race.

[HandSpeed303]

You wanna give some more excuses for other former champions that Floyd has beat like Castillo, Baldomir, Judah, & Manfreddy? I am sure you could keep going on.

Castillo beat Floyd in the first fight.

Baldomir earned his shot versus Floyd, but yet again, another over match opponent. That HBO led you to believe had a chance...Most knew the truth.

Judah never should have got a shot, and only did cause he got to keep his belt...I can't believe you just asked this.

Manfreddy?...Who cares? Really? A fighter that never beat another top fighter in his whole career.