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  • #21
    Originally posted by pacmandog View Post
    Okay, I am going to clear this up once and for all! I stand by the following statement with anyone. “Floyd Mayweather Jr. is overrated, period!” He has never fought any real fighter with a challenge and was NEVER that good. Here’s why:

    Mayweather Jr. has handpicked 2nd tier fighters for ALL of his careers. His best opponents are the following- Oscar Delahoya, Juan Manuel Marquez, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah and Diego Corrales. For someone who is in the welterweight division, there is not a TRUE welterweight in that list as Delahoya(his 2nd best challenge to date) was a middleweight.

    Now, even though Oscar Delahoya was past his prime and a lot less intense when he met Mayweather, he STILL had a close decision against him. Delahoya was in the fight the whole time and any real competitor would have taken Mayweather’s loss record that night. Oscar just didnt have his fighters edge, which is sad but true!

    Juan Manuel Marquez is not even close to a welterweight and when he fought Mayweather at the agreed 144lb weight, Mayweather came in at 147. Now here’s people’s argument on this fight. “Oh, but Mayweather dominated Marquez”. I got news for you, Mayweather didn’t dominate Marquez. Dominating is what Pacquiao did to Cotto. For Mayweather to be the supposed P4P best the fact is he hurt Marquez once in the 2nd round and couldnt even put him away for the rest of the fight. For someone to supposedly be so good, his punches only hurt Marquez in the knockdown and never again in the fight (Go youtube the after fight interview with Mayweather and Marquez). Just because he didn’t take punishment from a SMALLER fighter doesn’t make him good. The fact is Marquez MADE that fight as he tried and pursued Mayweather that whole night.

    Diego Corrales (RIP) when he fought Mayweather was not the same, period. Even so, Corrales STILL went to the 10th round with Mayweather. And to just be honest, Corrales was never that good anyway! Sorry but its true! Zab Judah, who is known for never being able to pull off the win in big fights, as well as fading in the later rounds, went 12 complete rounds with Mayweather. To also be honest here, as much as people don’t want to admit it, Judah was in the fight with Mayweather for 2/3’s of the bout and was never badly hurt.

    Mayweather’s best challenge came to him when he fought Jose Luis Castillo, a fight in the 135lb division! Now I take nothing away from there secound fight because I feel he beat Castillo fair. But in that first fight, Castillo gave Mayweather a fair share and he even hurt Mayweather. Again, don’t believe me then go look at youtube.

    Now speaking of being hurt. Mayweather was also hurt by DeMarcus Corley, almost knocked down by a OVERRATED Ricky Hatton (Don’t believe me go to the video and watch as Mayweather stumbles back from a Ricky Hatton punch). On top of that, the best decision he could pull of against a awful Carlos Baldomir was a 12 round decision? Also, everybody do your research. Every fighter he fought at that time besides Ricky “Over Rated” Hatton and Diego Corrales has had a lost on there record before they fought Mayweather. Thus proven that even though there 2nd tier fighters, those fighters were tested and defeated before in some way shape or form. Providing given strategy.

    My point here should be clear. Don’t pull Pacquiao’s card as if he has a challenge in Mayweather when Mayweather has only looked impressive against 2nd tier fighters and ducked EVERYONE else. I refuse to be ****** into this B.S. that he is one of the p4p best’s when he hasnt fought ANYBODY with worthwhile opposition! Where I come from, that makes you a coward.

    For a man to talk so much garbage doesn’t make him great, it makes him entertaining. An entertainer, not a fighter is something that Floyd Mayweather Jr admits he is(check his latest interview on skysports). Thanks to RA the Rugged Man, we also know on top of everything else, he has no sense of pride, being said and I quote “Legacy Dont Pay The Bills.” Therefore, this is article is dedicated to the real fighters out there! I will and have no problem saying this to anyone. Floyd Mayweather Jr is overrated, period.

    by jorge lugo
    OK, I think its funny how people always say Floyd ducks fighters. There is no proof that he ducks fighters. The man is pure talent and he definitely isn't overrated.

    You can say Manny Pacquiao is overrated also beat an old Barrera, an old Morales (lost to him also), a weight drained DLH, and a overrated Hatton. His trainer picks and chooses fights also. They wouldn't fight SSM at 147. His trainer said " SSM isn't DLH, we'd want it at 142 or 143". Pac didn't clear out the division in 140. Why didn't Pac fight Zahir Raheem????? Also, Pac won his 7th world title in an adjusted weightclass at 145 being the limit. 2lbs wouldn't have mattered, so they should've just had it a regular ww fight.

    I'm not a Pac hater, just a realist. The dude is awesome, but his trainer picks and chooses his fights and his weights. Freddie Roach just needs to train and stop picking weights and stuff. Freddie Roach chooses fighters on the decline. Even though I believed Pac was going to lose, I said FR must see a huge weakness in Cotto to have Pac fight him. Well, Cotto got exposed because he should've lost against Clottey but it was too close to give it 2 Clottey.

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    • #22
      ok..a counter pacman thread is on the way

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      • #23
        Originally posted by larry x View Post
        ok..a counter pacman thread is on the way
        why not just bump the one saying pacman is over rated from earlier and save you wasting your time.

        it will also save you from looking fcuking ******.

        Mayweather isn't over rated but it a damn sight easier to argue he is rather than pac is and thats a FACT.

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        • #24
          with ALL personal feelings aside.....now say "Floyd Mayweather Jr. is overrated".......sounds ******!!......most people rate Floyd as one of the BEST pure boxers of his era or any era......look at his fights and tell me if that isn't accurate......some say he may be the BEST defensive fighter since a prime Pernell Whitaker......again, watch the scraps and see if that is accurate!!.....Floyd aint overrated......he over-hated!!

          if Floyd is overrated then Manny's last 3 wins can be judged the same way by those who are over-hatin'!!!.......BOTH Floyd and Manny are GREAT at what they do!!......but **** them BOTH because Shane will put BOTH of the divas to sleep!!!.....WHAT!?!?!?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by pacmandog View Post
            Okay, I am going to clear this up once and for all! I stand by the following statement with anyone. “Floyd Mayweather Jr. is overrated, period!” He has never fought any real fighter with a challenge and was NEVER that good. Here’s why:

            Mayweather Jr. has handpicked 2nd tier fighters for ALL of his careers. His best opponents are the following- Oscar Delahoya, Juan Manuel Marquez, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah and Diego Corrales. For someone who is in the welterweight division, there is not a TRUE welterweight in that list as Delahoya(his 2nd best challenge to date) was a middleweight.

            Now, even though Oscar Delahoya was past his prime and a lot less intense when he met Mayweather, he STILL had a close decision against him. Delahoya was in the fight the whole time and any real competitor would have taken Mayweather’s loss record that night. Oscar just didnt have his fighters edge, which is sad but true!

            Juan Manuel Marquez is not even close to a welterweight and when he fought Mayweather at the agreed 144lb weight, Mayweather came in at 147. Now here’s people’s argument on this fight. “Oh, but Mayweather dominated Marquez”. I got news for you, Mayweather didn’t dominate Marquez. Dominating is what Pacquiao did to Cotto. For Mayweather to be the supposed P4P best the fact is he hurt Marquez once in the 2nd round and couldnt even put him away for the rest of the fight. For someone to supposedly be so good, his punches only hurt Marquez in the knockdown and never again in the fight (Go youtube the after fight interview with Mayweather and Marquez). Just because he didn’t take punishment from a SMALLER fighter doesn’t make him good. The fact is Marquez MADE that fight as he tried and pursued Mayweather that whole night.

            Diego Corrales (RIP) when he fought Mayweather was not the same, period. Even so, Corrales STILL went to the 10th round with Mayweather. And to just be honest, Corrales was never that good anyway! Sorry but its true! Zab Judah, who is known for never being able to pull off the win in big fights, as well as fading in the later rounds, went 12 complete rounds with Mayweather. To also be honest here, as much as people don’t want to admit it, Judah was in the fight with Mayweather for 2/3’s of the bout and was never badly hurt.

            Mayweather’s best challenge came to him when he fought Jose Luis Castillo, a fight in the 135lb division! Now I take nothing away from there secound fight because I feel he beat Castillo fair. But in that first fight, Castillo gave Mayweather a fair share and he even hurt Mayweather. Again, don’t believe me then go look at youtube.

            Now speaking of being hurt. Mayweather was also hurt by DeMarcus Corley, almost knocked down by a OVERRATED Ricky Hatton (Don’t believe me go to the video and watch as Mayweather stumbles back from a Ricky Hatton punch). On top of that, the best decision he could pull of against a awful Carlos Baldomir was a 12 round decision? Also, everybody do your research. Every fighter he fought at that time besides Ricky “Over Rated” Hatton and Diego Corrales has had a lost on there record before they fought Mayweather. Thus proven that even though there 2nd tier fighters, those fighters were tested and defeated before in some way shape or form. Providing given strategy.

            My point here should be clear. Don’t pull Pacquiao’s card as if he has a challenge in Mayweather when Mayweather has only looked impressive against 2nd tier fighters and ducked EVERYONE else. I refuse to be ****** into this B.S. that he is one of the p4p best’s when he hasnt fought ANYBODY with worthwhile opposition! Where I come from, that makes you a coward.

            For a man to talk so much garbage doesn’t make him great, it makes him entertaining. An entertainer, not a fighter is something that Floyd Mayweather Jr admits he is(check his latest interview on skysports). Thanks to RA the Rugged Man, we also know on top of everything else, he has no sense of pride, being said and I quote “Legacy Dont Pay The Bills.” Therefore, this is article is dedicated to the real fighters out there! I will and have no problem saying this to anyone. Floyd Mayweather Jr is overrated, period.

            by jorge lugo
            Im just writing to see if my new sig is a success or a failure.

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            • #26
              Lets be fair here,

              at 130 and 135, he did enough to warrant his status as a great talent with incredible skills. He may have had a gift vs Castillo, but he came back and proved he was the much better fighter. I'll never **** on Floyd for his work below 140.

              Since going up beyond that however,

              yea, the criticism is warranted.



              "Well, SRL shouldn't have fought Camacho then".


              That is quite telling in how confident Floyd is in his abilities these days.

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              • #27
                floyd's skills SEEM great, but he won't fight elite WWs so we don't know how great they really are.

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                • #28
                  Well the people who really know boxing (experts responsible for ATG lists etc) dont rate PBF that high, so no one should worry too much about PBF. Its only him rating himself and self pro claimed comments that link him to greatness.

                  Hes not in touching distance of true greats, like Ali, SRR, Armstrongs, and now the Pacs of this world.

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