The "May vs Pac PPV Common Opponent Argument" = ******

[JulVal]

Past is past. It doesn't matter if Mayweather WAS the biggest draw before. He most certainly isn't the biggest draw NOW.

We're in the present. Quit living off the past. Move on.

50/50 or **** off Floyd.

[Pullcounter]

Past is past. It doesn't matter if Mayweather WAS the biggest draw before. He most certainly isn't the biggest draw NOW.

We're in the present. Quit living off the past. Move on.

50/50 or **** off Floyd.

Well if pac did 1.6+ then there's an argument that pac deserves 60/40

[Xplosivo]

Well if pac did 1.6+ then there's an argument that pac deserves 60/40

I know you love suckings pacs balls but the here are some facts that ill paste again since you havent read my thread:


Floyd Sold 1 million Pay per views pretty much on his own.

Proof:

Marquez PPV History with KNOWN FIGHTERS/Dance partners:

Marquez vs Casamayor: 100,000 Pay per views.
Marquez vs Barrera: 225,000 Pay per views.
Marquez vs Pacquiao II: 400,000 Pay per views.

Manny sold less than half with Marquez compared to what Mayweather-Marquez did. Pacquiao-Marquez did 400,000 because of Pacquiao. Marquez was never a PPV draw.

Floyd sold 2.4 million Pay per views with Oscar De La Hoya
Manny sold 1.25 million Pay Per views with Oscar De La Hoya
Floyd sold 925,000 Pay per views with Hatton
Manny sold 850,000 Pay Per views with Hatton

Hatton made his biggest payday against Floyd
Judah made his biggest payday against Floyd
Oscar made his biggest payday against Floyd

So did Baldomir and Marquez. So will Pacquiao...even if he accepts 60/40

Floyd is also the undefeated fighter out of the two.

Cotto is a NAME and has a GOOD following. His PPV against Margarito did really well. Pacquiao has a great following. When you put two fighters with good followings in other words when you have a dance partner then you can get a lot of PPV Buys!

Look at Marquez PPV History it tells you that he isnt a big name and didnt sell too well despite being there with names such as Barrera and Casamayor.

Cotto on the other hand has had successful PPV's in the past.

Cotto vs Mosley did 400,000 PPV numbers (The same as Pacquiao-Marquez II)

Cotto vs Margarito did 450,000 PPV numbers

Floyd sold 1 Million PPV's almost by himself while Pacquiao and Cotto both sold the PPV.

This time Pacquiao actually had another PPV attraction in Miguel Cotto who did 400,000 buys against Mosley and 450,000 buys against Margarito. HE HAD A DANCING PARTNER, IT TAKES TWO TO SELL A FIGHT. Floyd did it alone vs Marquez and did 1 million.

Twice more than what Pacquiao did!

[MindBat]

Past revenue numbers are factored in during negotiations for any big fight.

To say it doesn't matter is plain being ignorant of the business side of boxing.

Boxing is also a business

[COACH WEBB]

the boxing media has done a fantastic job.

[MindBat]

I know you love suckings pacs balls but the here are some facts that ill paste again since you havent read my thread:


Floyd Sold 1 million Pay per views pretty much on his own.

Proof:

Marquez PPV History with KNOWN FIGHTERS/Dance partners:

Marquez vs Casamayor: 100,000 Pay per views.
Marquez vs Barrera: 225,000 Pay per views.
Marquez vs Pacquiao II: 400,000 Pay per views.

Manny sold less than half with Marquez compared to what Mayweather-Marquez did. Pacquiao-Marquez did 400,000 because of Pacquiao. Marquez was never a PPV draw.

Floyd sold 2.4 million Pay per views with Oscar De La Hoya
Manny sold 1.25 million Pay Per views with Oscar De La Hoya
Floyd sold 925,000 Pay per views with Hatton
Manny sold 850,000 Pay Per views with Hatton

Hatton made his biggest payday against Floyd
Judah made his biggest payday against Floyd
Oscar made his biggest payday against Floyd

So did Baldomir and Marquez. So will Pacquiao...even if he accepts 60/40

Floyd is also the undefeated fighter out of the two.

Cotto is a NAME and has a GOOD following. His PPV against Margarito did really well. Pacquiao has a great following. When you put two fighters with good followings in other words when you have a dance partner then you can get a lot of PPV Buys!

Look at Marquez PPV History it tells you that he isnt a big name and didnt sell too well despite being there with names such as Barrera and Casamayor.

Cotto on the other hand has had successful PPV's in the past.

Cotto vs Mosley did 400,000 PPV numbers (The same as Pacquiao-Marquez II)

Cotto vs Margarito did 450,000 PPV numbers

Floyd sold 1 Million PPV's almost by himself while Pacquiao and Cotto both sold the PPV.

This time Pacquiao actually had another PPV attraction in Miguel Cotto who did 400,000 buys against Mosley and 450,000 buys against Margarito. HE HAD A DANCING PARTNER, IT TAKES TWO TO SELL A FIGHT. Floyd did it alone vs Marquez and did 1 million.

Twice more than what Pacquiao did!

You should put this in your signature so more people would understand.

And yes Manny will have his biggest payday against Floyd if they ever step in the ring against eachother.

[MindBat]

the boxing media has done a fantastic job.

They most certainly have.

[Bernie Madoff]

Past is past. It doesn't matter if Mayweather WAS the biggest draw before. He most certainly isn't the biggest draw NOW.

We're in the present. Quit living off the past. Move on.

50/50 or **** off Floyd.

LOL @ them for begging for 50/50.

[JulVal]

LOL @ them for begging for 50/50.

Past revenue numbers are factored in during negotiations for any big fight.

To say it doesn't matter is plain being ignorant of the business side of boxing.

Boxing is also a business

Boxing is also business is what you say right? If it is then we should all look at this scenario at every angle.

You guys were talking about the pre-great recession Floyd figures right? While failing to see that Pac, fought those common opponents, during recession poor USA and yet, they were very much willing to see this guy fight?

Oh and of course, let's not forget that Pacquiao is Asian hence he's not on his own turf. Could you imagine if we were to count Philippines PPV and movie sales as well?

The fact that
Pac vs Cotto > May vs Marquez at their own home turf says alot.

Oh and what's so funny with a 50/50 cut? It's fair and ****ing reasonable. Pac's accomplishment for the last 3 years is no contest to May's blown out lightweight win.

[cortdawg25]

Past is past. It doesn't matter if Mayweather WAS the biggest draw before. He most certainly isn't the biggest draw NOW.

We're in the present. Quit living off the past. Move on.

50/50 or **** off Floyd.

Yeah right....Lmao!!! the past is a great indicator of the future!