Cotto post Pacquiao , A beast in the making??

[Animalistic 5.0]

Cotto with Nacho or Roach would be a beast! He did look in pre Margarito form in those first 4 rounds against Pacquiao. He look faster than I have ever seen him but he also look leaner than before (I don't think he was over 154).

[rommel357]

Cotto is still a beast and always will be. He needs a new trainer and a whole new corner at that. He should really get Roach to train him, i guarantee he will be a new and more complete fighter. And then fight Margarito to redeem himself and finally get that loss of his back.

[zalez787]

He's a great puncher and brawler but he does not read movements and punches like PBF, he does not have the defensive mindset of a marquez and his reflexes are average. When Manny starts to come after you, you are going to need those attributes to survive and these attributes are very difficult to train. It's much like a chin, you either have it or you don't and I'm sorry but nothing leads me to believe that Miguel does.

U are very right , but let me tell u something. Pac tried to hit Cotto in the first , and what did Cotto do , he held up a tight defense.And avoided Pacs attack , and left him resource less. Cuz he could throw 100 punches per second ,but once u have that tight defense held up , u are not going to land at will , and u can very well get countered with something hard. And to hold a tight defense u dont need such sharp reflexes , u should always box with ur guard up , and then create an attack. not create an attck and then cover. u dont need reflexes for a tight defense.

[KingTito]

You're hoping for too much bro. At this point Cotto is almost destroyed complitely. The fact that he was just exposed and wasn't the hyped up fighter that most made him out to be, plays a big part in his mental downfall.

I bet he's more mad at himself for thinking he was as good as the public made him out to be, than for the fact that he didn't box with Pac but brawled instead.

Destroyed completely? Why because he lost twice? Alright..

[maddox22]

I'm a Filipino but I'm also a big fan of Cotto. I think most of the boxing fans here in the Philippines love Cotto before and after the Pacquiao fight. He's got the technique and power. Manny admitted he was just pretending not to be hurt with Cotto's punches.

Anyway, we see Pacquiao and Cotto as different fighters. And we see Cotto as a great fighter.

[Albo Da Kid]

Nobody talked about running idiot. Did he run in the first NOOOO did he try going toe to toe in the first NOOOOOO did he win the first round YEESSSS. PAc would have not landed as much as he did with a Clottey or Winky like defense. and that I know for a fact. Just look at Clottey - Judah fight.

You have a guy who is very quick , and even if he is not that busy , his workrate beats Clotteys which is known for being a "slacker" in the ring. And look at the results of that fight. DEFENSE could very well make the difference.

You're basing that whole fight on the first?? What a ***in idiot you are my man. Just because he did good in one round doesn't mean that every round was going to go the same exact way. Even if he DID decide to fight every round like he fought the first, Manny would still find a way to use his speed and accurate punching against him.

PAc would have not landed as much as he did with a Clottey or Winky like defense. and that I know for a fact. Just look at Clottey - Judah fight.

That's how I know you don't know **** about boxing. Pac would have killed him if Cotto stood infront of him with that kind of defense.
Did you see( i think it was in the second round) where Cotto had the Winky defense and he got cracked with a 3 punch combination?? that would have happened the whole fight

Listen bro. With a chin and speed like Cotto's, there's no way in the world he could had beat Pac.

i just hope Miguel doesn't get dillusional and requests a rematch, because I honestly believe manny is going to put him to sleep this time around...probably **** around and put him into retirement aswell

[Albo Da Kid]

Destroyed completely? Why because he lost twice? Alright..

Every class A fighter Cotto fought with the exception of Mosley, he lost or preformed horrible at least.

I feel he lost to Clottey, got destroyed by Pac and Marg, almost knocked out by Judah( and I don't consider Judah a class A fighter at that stage of his career)

[Talisayen]

I'm a Filipino but I'm also a big fan of Cotto. I think most of the boxing fans here in the Philippines love Cotto before and after the Pacquiao fight. He's got the technique and power. Manny admitted he was just pretending not to be hurt with Cotto's punches.

Anyway, we see Pacquiao and Cotto as different fighters. And we see Cotto as a great fighter.

^^^^^^^^^true dat^^^^^^^^^^

[fightingfigs]

I started a thread the other day about how Cotto had the tools to beat Manny and he went the wrong way after winning a very smart first round. Some people in here bashed me and called me names , saying I should get over it this and that , And now CHAMBOXPR has made a new thread about him talking to his cousing and actually CONFIRMING what I said and got insulted for.

Cotto went the wrong way gamplan wise , after fighting a very smart first round and tried going toe to toe.

Manny might have been testing waters in the first , but even if he was , afterwards , HE WOULD HAVE NOT LANDED IF COTTO WOULD HAVE BOXED.

Now This conversation with his cousin , just confirms what I said. Even he knows he went the wrong way. He said he should have not gone toe to toe. He should have boxed , and he could have broken manny down.


Buck **** it , lets leave it at that.

What I like is that Cotto recognized he made a mistake , and is eager and prob hungrier than ever , knowing he could have won that fight If he would have done the right thing. Which he knows he did IN THE FIRST.

I love how he losses , and gets mad at himself.

God , Cotto is truly a ****ing beast man!!!

If what im thinking is right , Cotto might just come back hungrier than ever. More motivatred than ever , prob fight smarter than ever. If he already is known to be this motivated, devoted serious ass fighter , what will he evolve into now?? This is kind of scary , I said since last saturday , I know Cotto has the tools to beat Manny. Cotto knows he could have done so much more and he went the wrong way. He did what he wasnt supposed to.
So what now???

What do you guys think. Is this what cotto needed to get his act together!!!

Whether or not it was a wake up call??? , a reality check that his better days are behind?? , or a new beginning??? or whatever u guys can come up with , nothing will be achieved , without a better trainer!!!

I dont think anyone stands a chance a Pacquiao with the juice on his side.

HGH makes great warriors even greater.

[VoodooChild]

U are very right , but let me tell u something. Pac tried to hit Cotto in the first , and what did Cotto do , he held up a tight defense.And avoided Pacs attack , and left him resource less. Cuz he could throw 100 punches per second ,but once u have that tight defense held up , u are not going to land at will , and u can very well get countered with something hard. And to hold a tight defense u dont need such sharp reflexes , u should always box with ur guard up , and then create an attack. not create an attck and then cover. u dont need reflexes for a tight defense.

Of course Pac tried to hit Cotto in the first but he did not turn up the heat till a few rounds later. He also had a nice tight defense for most of rounds 3 and 4 and all it took were a couple strange angled punches from Pac to turn that defence into swiss cheese.

Once Pac starts turning it on his speed becomes blinding; you are getting hit from everywhere at every angle. Oscar said that he punched so fast that thought there were 10 of him in there. It takes a very special defensive fighter to handle that kind of barrage, and Miguel is not that kind of fighter.