Analysis on Manny Pacquiao Vs. Floyd Mayweather.

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  • aether
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    #11
    pacquiao vs. shane mosley would be a more exciting fight IMO.

    but hey, its a legit superfight. hope both sides take put their egos aside and focus on the $$$$ they'll be making

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    • mikelovesfood
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      #12
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
      Since some people on here believe Mayweather is the easiest opponent for Pacquiao out of Cotto, Shane and Mayweather, I've decided to make this thread. Listen, despite Mayweather's output, I'm gonna say that I honestly believe Mayweather will dictate the pace against Pacquiao (I know that people are already thinking "Boring"). I'm gonna start off with Mayweather's boxing stance






      Gonna be using Cotto as an example alot, don't take offense.

      Notice that the difference between Mayweather and Cotto is that Mayweather doesn't bend foward; doesn't have to expose himself to Pacquiao's offense. Not only is his stance straight, he can lean back and on the move also. Look at Cotto's stance for example,

      Much easier of a target. It didn't help that his head is down either.

      We're all used to seeing Mayweather come foward/ get more offensive against south paws, I don't see that happening against Pacquiao. After reading El Jesus's post on Mayweather saying that Pacquiao is one-dimensional, Mayweather's gonna try and outbox Pacquiao. As a Mayweather fan, I was lucky to see the late rounds on Cotto vs. Pacquiao because when Cotto started to move, I saw an average offense and Pacquiao seemed very very annoyed. Also, don't think for one second that Mayweather will stop moving because Pacquiao stopped in the middle of the ring only to bait him, ain't gonna work. Mayweather will crack a smile and continue to box. I predict Mayweather will be going toe to toe in about the 7th round. Not because Pacquiao has slowed down (That never happens) but because he will probably already have him figured.

      Lets look at the stats, Cotto has a 67 reach, Mayweather has a 72 reach and is 5'8, actually uses his height and reach. Lets also talk about Mayweather's straight right hand. When was the last time Pacquiao faced an opponent with a really good right hand? It was Marquez. Not Hatton, DLH, Cotto but Marquez, and we all saw the success Marquez had. Morales also deserves a mention. Not to say Pacquiao hasn't improved since then, because he has. The difference between Marquez's straight right as oppose to Mayweather's is that he doesn't clinch after landing it; Marquez would follow up with a combination and that leaves him vulnerable. Where as Mayweather would instead clinch and not allow the opponent to get off. Floyd will do anything not to allow Pacquiao to get off. With all this said, I'm inclined to believe Mayweather will dictate the pace.

      Mayweather's left hook ain't as devastating as Cotto's but Mayweather doesn't telegraph his punches. He doesn't have to plant his foot and get set; he throw punches from pretty much all angles. Mayweather is the far more accurate puncher. I don't want to sound like I'm bashing Cotto either, I'm simply using him as an example; I really really am. On Youtube, I've subscribed to alot of people who talk boxing, and most have come to the conclusion that Pacquiao can beat Mayweather on activity alone. I strongly disagree because as I mentioned, Mayweather will dictate the pace and clinch. Another thing, Mayweather doesn't only use the shoulder roll. He's pretty good at using the high guard also,

      http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_photos/Floyd-Mayweather-Zab-Judah-fight22.JPG

      It's insane that I sound like I'm picking Mayweather but I view this as 50/50.

      I'm not going to disagree with you here because after watching cotto/pac several times then watching floyd/marquez I was still highly doubtful for team pac.

      In any way you look at it any REAL boxing fan will tell you that floyds skill in the ring is just too good. Out of some weird belief I still think that Pac can pull it off. Why? Because Pac imo I dont think Pac has peaked yet. His ability to still get better is crazy. When it comes to boxing strategy Freddie > Floyd Sr. anyday. Floyd Jr. doesn't watch old tapes of fighters didn't he say that? Freddie is really good at pointing out flaws and Manny is really good at following instructions and add to the fact that Manny always brings 110% into the ring.

      From a betting standpoint I'd bet on Floyd without a doubt. My heart says Pac but my head says Floyd.

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      • S.G.
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        #13
        Originally posted by aether
        pacquiao vs. shane mosley would be a more exciting fight IMO.
        there might be bigger punches flying and connecting but it's no where near as interesting a style clash in my opinion. also mayweather is better than mosley and far more likely to figure pacquiao out and give us a competetive fight.

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        • ThePunchingBag
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          #14
          Originally posted by OTSS
          This is gonna be our version of HAGLER V LENARD, The styles just mirror it for the most part.
          Floyd is no Leonard, Hagler is no Pacquiao or vice versa. Leonard was actually entertaining to watch.

          I'll make my own analysis about the fight later, when the fight gets signed. As of now the only thing I agree with the TS about is that the fight is 50-50. Pac's fight with Cotto was 75-25 and came out almost exactly like I predicted 3 months ago.

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            #15
            Originally posted by mikelovesfood
            In any way you look at it any REAL boxing fan will tell you that floyds skill in the ring is just too good. Out of some weird belief I still think that Pac can pull it off. Why? Because Pac imo I dont think Pac has peaked yet. His ability to still get better is crazy. When it comes to boxing strategy Freddie > Floyd Sr. anyday. Floyd Jr. doesn't watch old tapes of fighters didn't he say that? Freddie is really good at pointing out flaws and Manny is really good at following instructions and add to the fact that Manny always brings 110% into the ring.
            Ah but Roach can't think for Pacquiao in the ring. Mayweather's on the spot strategising will prove more decisive than Roach's pre-fight planning.

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            • iHateThePacMan
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              #16
              I doubt roach will allow this, but in order to fight cotto i think he needs to be bulky= slower- i think he wouldn't have won the fight if he only relied speed, he need to be able to take cotto's punch.

              I think the pacquiao version fighting floyd will be a lot less bulky and more focus on speed.

              Floyd's shoulder roll and head leaning forward might not work against pacquiao.
              But I see floyd running left, right, backwards pot shotting. But if he stood still doing his defensive mode i doubt he would be able to predict those awkward punches from pacquiao and that will get him into trouble.

              I think pacquiao is frustrated with the referee because he thought there was no point on continuing the fight.
              Last edited by iHateThePacMan; 11-19-2009, 12:41 PM.

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              • rambov
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                #17
                I think that Floyd would rely on the jab in this fight a lot. PAC is going to need major defense training here on out.
                This fight would have looked like the JMM fight but then again JMM is a better boxer than PAC.

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                • OTSS
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                  Floyd is no Leonard, Hagler is no Pacquiao or vice versa. Leonard was actually entertaining to watch.

                  I'll make my own analysis about the fight later, when the fight gets signed. As of now the only thing I agree with the TS about is that the fight is 50-50. Pac's fight with Cotto was 75-25 and came out almost exactly like I predicted 3 months ago.
                  Thats your opinion and quite frankly I couldn't care less what it is. Do you just suck pac's **** or is this a community affair?

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                  • aether
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by S.G.
                    there might be bigger punches flying and connecting but it's no where near as interesting a style clash in my opinion. also mayweather is better than mosley and far more likely to figure pacquiao out and give us a competetive fight.
                    floyd will be on his bike pot shoting the hell out of pacman. that's how he's gonna win.

                    i don't see pacquiao winning a decision. he'll try to blast floyd and would probably pay for it.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by aether
                      floyd will be on his bike pot shoting the hell out of pacman. that's how he's gonna win.

                      i don't see pacquiao winning a decision. he'll try to blast floyd and would probably pay for it.
                      Outbox Pacquiao not run.

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