James Toney and Freddie Roach

**Cuauht�moc1520** · 11-19-2009, 10:14 AM

Cuz James Toney is a lazy fat ***.

**SplitSecond** · 11-19-2009, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496

Cuz James Toney is a lazy fat ***.

tis true........

**Adamantium** · 11-19-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496

Cuz James Toney is a lazy fat ***.

It must be frustrating trying to train a talented fighter, who has all the talent in the world but zero discipline. After flushing away about 8 years of his career after the Jones fight, you would of thought Toney would of got a little bit more discipline.

**Pullcounter** · 11-19-2009, 10:27 AM

toney basially trains himself

**Adamantium** · 11-19-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Pullcounter

toney basially trains himself

If his not willing to listen to a trainer, than I guess he has no choice. I remember his first trainer Bill Miller, I thought he was a great trainer. Moving to hw has been one of the worst moves for Toney imo. Moving up just so you dont have to make weight anymore, what kind of crap is that?

James Toney and Freddie Roach