This sucks! This fight is only worth HBO Boxing After Dark. You know what, because it's Barrera, why not HBO World Championship Boxing. But PPV??? WTF??? Pac-Marquez is not even PPV and why should this be. I just hope this don't turn out to be a Marquez-Salido crap. But nevertheless, go Barrera!
Anyone ordering the Barrera PPV?
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Good call on the Marquez-Salido crap (IMO an extremely rigged fight), I think Barrera will be intense and look for a quick KO, this kid Fana looks malnutritioned and Marco is still pretty big for 130 compared to most guys in the division, I'd be shocked if the fight went past 6 or 7 rounds....Originally posted by crazyvinceThis sucks! This fight is only worth HBO Boxing After Dark. You know what, because it's Barrera, why not HBO World Championship Boxing. But PPV??? WTF??? Pac-Marquez is not even PPV and why should this be. I just hope this don't turn out to be a Marquez-Salido crap. But nevertheless, go Barrera!
Anybody wanna jump on the "BAN PPV" bandwagon?!?! just a thought....I'm sure I'll plunk $50 down to see Gatti get smoked like a stogie....Comment
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The WWF/E shows were once on USA Network. TNN (now Spike TV) showed ECW. Then they bought the WWF/E shows. Now the WWE is going back to USA Network. Seems to me if DLH put boxing on those channels, boxing would be linked to rasslin' more than now. There's no rasslin' on Showtime or HBO.Originally posted by SacTown1It's ironic, the Barrera-Pacquaio showdown is on HBO, but Barrera-TomatoCan is 50 bucks....if DeLaHoya really wanted to change things in boxing, he'd get these kinds of fights on not just pay cable, but USA, Spike TV, and then possibly the big networks later on....boxing will always be linked to Rasslin' if it continues down the PPV trailComment
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Spike airs Klitschko fights, I am sure this wouldnt be a problem but A LOT of stations are making more money off of syndication and other shows and sports really are not that big of a draw anymore unless it is the superbowl or something of that stature. Boxing just cant cut it on broadcast or cable television....To be considered a success on HBO you have to draw a rating of 5.0 or more (which is like 5 million people watching) Now probably a couple well scratch that MAJORITY of a million people dont have HBO and are fight fans. Well HBO has connections to NBC and ABC if they could bring TVKO to broadcast television like they use to they could bring in MEGA ratings. Majority here dont watch the contender and they earn a modest 5.0 each week so a highly anticipated fight could do better.
GoldenBoy wants to change boxing? Take a risk and put one of your top stars in a prime time slot on abc/nbc/fox and see how it does, if it does well it would change the sport forever I truly do believe. But the main factor is advertising and a lot of companies wont dish money into a name they dont know....It is to much of a risk with boxing but the payoff could be tremendous....
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you're just talking about boxing, there, right?Originally posted by spinksjinxSpike airs Klitschko fights, I am sure this wouldnt be a problem but A LOT of stations are making more money off of syndication and other shows and sports really are not that big of a draw anymore unless it is the superbowl or something of that stature. Boxing just cant cut it on broadcast or cable television....To be considered a success on HBO you have to draw a rating of 5.0 or more (which is like 5 million people watching) Now probably a couple well scratch that MAJORITY of a million people dont have HBO and are fight fans. Well HBO has connections to NBC and ABC if they could bring TVKO to broadcast television like they use to they could bring in MEGA ratings. Majority here dont watch the contender and they earn a modest 5.0 each week so a highly anticipated fight could do better.
GoldenBoy wants to change boxing? Take a risk and put one of your top stars in a prime time slot on abc/nbc/fox and see how it does, if it does well it would change the sport forever I truly do believe. But the main factor is advertising and a lot of companies wont dish money into a name they dont know....It is to much of a risk with boxing but the payoff could be tremendous....
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you make a good point about those networks, I'm just thinking that people wouldn't mind watching a mediocre matchup if it were FREE, but a $50 mismatch, or even a good matchup for $50 that fizzles, turns people away from the sport....Rasslin always makes the shows somewhat entertaining with the pyrotechnics and the hoop-la and hype, and the customers always come back for more....boxing doesn't have a loyal-enough fanbase to encourage repeat PPV business, and average sports fans will only throw $5 in a hat with 10 frineds if they ever wanna see a Tyson or Oscar fight....Originally posted by neils7147933The WWF/E shows were once on USA Network. TNN (now Spike TV) showed ECW. Then they bought the WWF/E shows. Now the WWE is going back to USA Network. Seems to me if DLH put boxing on those channels, boxing would be linked to rasslin' more than now. There's no rasslin' on Showtime or HBO.
I like the network idea, but sponsorships and credibility need to be established first, maybe if The Contender gets some good ratings then NBC will consider a show or 2 later this year, but its doubtfulComment
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Originally posted by neils7147933you're just talking about boxing, there, right?
Absolutely.
Sac-USA use to have Tuesday night fights that actually put on some pretty good fights and consistantly featured TUA/Byrd/Hopkins.But sadly enough also televised Butterbean but hey who cares right?
Also NBC took a chance last year and aired numerous boxing shows on saturday around 3pm...Nobody is home at these times but the fight with Cintron drew a rating of 1.5 with like a 1.8 share, at 3 oclock on a Saturdy afternoon during a NICE summer day it drew almost 2 million people. Imagine if they placed a top name for example Tarver vs Johnson in a primetime slot what kind of ratings they would get?????
It isnt the fact that NBC and others dont want to do it, because they probably would but it is HARD finding advertisers for these time spots and this is a factor that is holding boxing back from the national coverage it deserves.
I think it is great Toyota is working with the Contender, hopefully the Finale draws big time because it could lead to bigger things on NBC.Comment
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There are numerous cable networks that would go nuts for the opportunity to get a 1.5 on a Sat. afternoon.
Keep in mind, NBC dumped the XFL, but TNN was happy as hell to pull in the viewers it was getting (live attendance was good, too, but that's a different thread...)Comment
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check yer inboxOriginally posted by neils7147933There are numerous cable networks that would go nuts for the opportunity to get a 1.5 on a Sat. afternoon.
Keep in mind, NBC dumped the XFL, but TNN was happy as hell to pull in the viewers it was getting (live attendance was good, too, but that's a different thread...)Comment
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