floyd mayweather has the same 40-0 record as "sugar" ray robinson before he lost....

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  • Sox8055
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    #11
    And Pacquiao beats everybody who comes forward to him...but yet looks weak against counterpunchers or boxers.

    So FLoyd Mayweather Jr= Pac's Kryptonite...

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    • TheGreatA
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      #12
      Robinson already had wins over world champions from lightweight up to middleweight by the time he was 40-0.

      How do Floyd's best wins compare to:

      Henry Armstrong
      Fritzie Zivic
      Sammy Angott
      Jake LaMotta
      Marty Servo

      Robinson of course went onto fight 160 more times afterwards.

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        #13
        Not even comparable. This is an insult to Ray.

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        • billionaire
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          #14
          Originally posted by TheGreatA
          Robinson already had wins over world champions from lightweight up to middleweight by the time he was 40-0.

          How do Floyd's best wins compare to:

          Henry Armstrong
          Fritzie Zivic
          Sammy Angott
          Jake LaMotta
          Marty Servo

          Robinson of course went onto fight 160 more times afterwards.
          the first 2 were shot plus armstrong is like a midget next to robinson, thats like pac fighting paul williams....lamotta is above average at best his record ******, the classic standards for hall of fame are so low for christ sakes jess willard is in there...he is just perfect style matchup....dont know about the other 2...

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          • Stoppage
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            #15
            idiot of the day: billionaire

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            • Jiddu Dali
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              #16
              Originally posted by billionaire
              i know its not all about the 40-0 record but riddle me this, floyd has 6 belts across 25 pounds and defeated 13 former world champs....sure belts are easier to come by but it still says something....its not like sugar rays first 40 fights were all against world beaters....

              sugar ray was 40-0 before he lost to his kryptonite jake lamotta, who despite the myths was not a hard puncher in fact he has like 30 kos in 100 fights....lamotta lost to a shot welterweight named fritzie zivic in fact....fair enough to say sugar ray would beat pac because styles make fights same reason floyd would beat lamotta easy....because floyd does best against slow iron chin plodders lamotta is like a mix of baldomir and hatton....

              pacquiao is floyds kryptonite because twice floyd has been rocked by southpaws and pac is smarter faster stronger and better than them...its easy to compare to "sugar" ray...if floyd beats pac it will say alot about his legacy in the sport of boxing....
              Wait ....wait..wait.....






              he was "rocked"? or was he just "hit"?

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              • Jiddu Dali
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                #17
                Originally posted by Sox8055
                And Pacquiao beats everybody who comes forward to him...but yet looks weak against counterpunchers or boxers.

                So FLoyd Mayweather Jr= Pac's Kryptonite...
                I agree

                Pac has more problems with counter punchers than Mayweather has with southpaws....

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                • TheGreatA
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by billionaire
                  the first 2 were shot plus armstrong is like a midget next to robinson, thats like pac fighting paul williams....lamotta is above average at best his record ******, the classic standards for hall of fame are so low for christ sakes jess willard is in there...he is just perfect style matchup....dont know about the other 2...
                  Zivic was shot? You do know that he was coming off a highly controversial loss of his welterweight title to Freddie Cochrane, a loss he avenged almost immediately afterwards (in a non-title bout). That was quite possibly the peak of his fighting career and Robinson was one of the few to ever stop him inside the distance.

                  Armstrong was past his prime but not shot. Shot fighters do not beat Juan Zurita (LW champ), Tippy Larkin (LWW champ), Sammy Angott (LW champ) Willie Joyce, Al Davis, Mike Belloise, etc. avenge the losses to Fritzie Zivic, lose controversially to Beau Jack (LW champ). He was the number 1 ranked welterweight contender at the time and Robinson had to beat him to become the top ranked contender.

                  LaMotta's record ******? He may have had a lot of losses but look at the opposition he fought and beat. He never had any easy fights, almost every fight was against a top 10 ranked contender. His record is quite great if you look at the wins only.

                  Marty Servo was 42-0 and the future welterweight champ.

                  Sammy Angott was the LW champ who beat a prime Willie Pep.

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                  • UnifiedD
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TheGreatA
                    Robinson already had wins over world champions from lightweight up to middleweight by the time he was 40-0.

                    How do Floyd's best wins compare to:

                    Henry Armstrong
                    Fritzie Zivic
                    Sammy Angott
                    Jake LaMotta
                    Marty Servo

                    Robinson of course went onto fight 160 more times afterwards.
                    DUDE YOU CAN ASK ANY boxing historian Armstrong and Zivic where shot when they fought ray robinson .....Servo & Angott are no Floyd mayweathers style wise
                    Last edited by UnifiedD; 11-19-2009, 04:54 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Baldomir, Gatt, Oscar was not as good as Lamotta.
                      Nobody of Floyds resume is as good as LaMotta

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