What was Ray Robinson at 5'11 doing at welterweight?

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  • SplitSecond
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    What was Ray Robinson at 5'11 doing at welterweight?

    and robinson was 90-0 in the amatuers?
    he got all those wins at 16 or somethin? he started his pro career at 19....but still decided to stick to welterweight until 28?
    even for his lightheavyweight bout he came in around 155 pounds
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    cherry pickin his fights against smaller opponents
    23.53%
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    his bodytype was ectomorph
    41.18%
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    all the the big fights were down at that weight
    23.53%
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    he was po....could'nt afford the o-r
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    since today for me has for some reason been ray robinson vs roy jones day, i realised they are the same size and yet jones could only maintain the junior middleweight class for a short period of time robinson stayed at that weight for some time

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    • Chups
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      #3
      Yup his position in the ATG list is very questionable....we should immediately put Pacquiao on top as number 1.





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        Teri Tom, MS, RD, is a board member of the Bruce Lee Foundation and a certified Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do instructor under Sifu Ted Wong.

        Teri is also a registered dietitian with a BA in communications studies from UCLA, a master's degree in nutritional science from California State University, Los Angeles, and a certificate in personal training from the National Academy of Sports Medicine. She specializes in sports nutrition and runs her practice out of the exclusive SportsClub/LA in West Los Angeles.

        She has been Pac's nutritionist since the the pre-DLH fight.

        Tom said she was challenged to build up Pacquiao’s body mass without compromising his speed and power when he decided to move up two weight classes to fight De la Hoya.

        “Manny has a history of dipping into the 130s only several weeks into training which was fine when he was fighting at a lower weight but this time, we had to keep him heavy so he’d have some heft going into the ring with Oscar,” wrote Tom in her book “Martial Arts Nutrition.”

        Tom said in Pacquiao’s diet, she increased the frequency of his meals and switched his supplements. She introduced a protein shake of about 20 grams in the morning before jogging and another 20 grams after his workout in the afternoon. There was also a mid-morning snack, usually an egg sandwich. The goal was to build his muscle mass.

        Eating a lot of calorie-laden food at his favorite Thai restaurant beside the Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles was not a problem in Tom’s program.

        “When you’re Manny, you burn through calories like there’s no tomorrow,” said Tom. “My feeling is if he’s four to six percent body fat and losing muscle is a concern, I’m not going to quibble about the Thai restaurant and coconut sauces. It’s more important that he get those calories in and that it’s palatable to him and that he enjoys his food. A lot of people ask me about the four cups of rice he’ll have. Again, not a problem when body fat is coming down and we are preserving muscle.”

        Tom said a careful balance of nutritional intake is crucial during Pacquiao’s training period. “Carbohydrate intake during extended bouts of exercise has been proved to improve performance,” she noted. “Carbohydrates are key to fueling your alertness and skill whether you’re training or competing.”

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          What is the height limit for WW?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Chang Mo Kei
            Teri Tom, MS, RD, is a board member of the Bruce Lee Foundation and a certified Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do instructor under Sifu Ted Wong.

            Teri is also a registered dietitian with a BA in communications studies from UCLA, a master's degree in nutritional science from California State University, Los Angeles, and a certificate in personal training from the National Academy of Sports Medicine. She specializes in sports nutrition and runs her practice out of the exclusive SportsClub/LA in West Los Angeles.

            She has been Pac's nutritionist since the the pre-DLH fight.

            Tom said she was challenged to build up Pacquiao’s body mass without compromising his speed and power when he decided to move up two weight classes to fight De la Hoya.

            “Manny has a history of dipping into the 130s only several weeks into training which was fine when he was fighting at a lower weight but this time, we had to keep him heavy so he’d have some heft going into the ring with Oscar,” wrote Tom in her book “Martial Arts Nutrition.”

            Tom said in Pacquiao’s diet, she increased the frequency of his meals and switched his supplements. She introduced a protein shake of about 20 grams in the morning before jogging and another 20 grams after his workout in the afternoon. There was also a mid-morning snack, usually an egg sandwich. The goal was to build his muscle mass.

            Eating a lot of calorie-laden food at his favorite Thai restaurant beside the Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles was not a problem in Tom’s program.

            “When you’re Manny, you burn through calories like there’s no tomorrow,” said Tom. “My feeling is if he’s four to six percent body fat and losing muscle is a concern, I’m not going to quibble about the Thai restaurant and coconut sauces. It’s more important that he get those calories in and that it’s palatable to him and that he enjoys his food. A lot of people ask me about the four cups of rice he’ll have. Again, not a problem when body fat is coming down and we are preserving muscle.”

            Tom said a careful balance of nutritional intake is crucial during Pacquiao’s training period. “Carbohydrate intake during extended bouts of exercise has been proved to improve performance,” she noted. “Carbohydrates are key to fueling your alertness and skill whether you’re training or competing.”
            are you spamming me?

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              #7
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              what is the height limit for ww?
              147?.......

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              • Benny Leonard
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                #8
                I heard he fought Willie Pep in the amateurs.



                Here is SRR as an amateur


                1939 Featherweight Golden Gloves Finals from New York City.




                Lightweight

                Last edited by Benny Leonard; 11-18-2009, 05:45 PM.

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                  Originally posted by tehMatrix
                  147?.......
                  i think youve missed the point, he asked what the height limit was not weight.... and of course there isnt one

                  tito trinidad was 5 ft 11
                  DLH - 5ft 10
                  paul williams - 6ft 2

                  all fought at welterweight

                  whats the issue?

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #10
                    at 160 Ray Robinson easily beats Roy. If anybody else thinks other wise then they are really overrating Roy.

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