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  • Chang Mo Kei
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    The OFFICIAL Pac/Steroids conspiracy thread



    Teri Tom, MS, RD, is a board member of the Bruce Lee Foundation and a certified Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do instructor under Sifu Ted Wong.

    Teri is also a registered dietitian with a BA in communications studies from UCLA, a master's degree in nutritional science from California State University, Los Angeles, and a certificate in personal training from the National Academy of Sports Medicine. She specializes in sports nutrition and runs her practice out of the exclusive SportsClub/LA in West Los Angeles.

    She has been Pac's nutritionist since the the pre-DLH fight.

    Tom said she was challenged to build up Pacquiao’s body mass without compromising his speed and power when he decided to move up two weight classes to fight De la Hoya.

    “Manny has a history of dipping into the 130s only several weeks into training which was fine when he was fighting at a lower weight but this time, we had to keep him heavy so he’d have some heft going into the ring with Oscar,” wrote Tom in her book “Martial Arts Nutrition.”

    Tom said in Pacquiao’s diet, she increased the frequency of his meals and switched his supplements. She introduced a protein shake of about 20 grams in the morning before jogging and another 20 grams after his workout in the afternoon. There was also a mid-morning snack, usually an egg sandwich. The goal was to build his muscle mass.

    Eating a lot of calorie-laden food at his favorite Thai restaurant beside the Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles was not a problem in Tom’s program.

    “When you’re Manny, you burn through calories like there’s no tomorrow,” said Tom. “My feeling is if he’s four to six percent body fat and losing muscle is a concern, I’m not going to quibble about the Thai restaurant and coconut sauces. It’s more important that he get those calories in and that it’s palatable to him and that he enjoys his food. A lot of people ask me about the four cups of rice he’ll have. Again, not a problem when body fat is coming down and we are preserving muscle.”

    Tom said a careful balance of nutritional intake is crucial during Pacquiao’s training period. “Carbohydrate intake during extended bouts of exercise has been proved to improve performance,” she noted. “Carbohydrates are key to fueling your alertness and skill whether you’re training or competing.”

    Tom's books: (with a foreward from Bruce Lee's daughter)
    128
    Yes.
    21.09%
    27
    No.
    53.91%
    69
    I'm curious, but skeptical until I see something concrete.
    21.88%
    28
    I'm skeptical but I know deep down that he is cheating.
    3.13%
    4

    The poll is expired.

  • Chang Mo Kei
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    #2
    nobody interested with this proof...

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    • markfrombrookly
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      Thoughts on Pac Steroid Issue...

      Now I see alot of people writing on here in regards to the Pac Steroid issue. Personally I like Pac.. He seems like a really nice guy and seems down to earth and not arrogant at all. I've always said I suspected him of doing something that wasn't legal. Can any Pac fan say in all honesty that you don't find it weird how he moves up in weight and starts knocking dudes out cold? I can understand if he was always a knockout puncher but he wasn't knocking guys at the lower weight out with ONE shot. Usually when you move up in weight you either lose your speed or power or somethings both.. Pac seems to have gained power and speed and endurance even though he's moved up 3 weight classes. I see alot of his fans saying that people are jealous of him and that's why they're throwing out the steroid accusations. That doesn't make sense to me. His own fellow fighters are saying the same thing. And it's not like he's a bad guy or arrogant guy. The guy is genuinely a nice and humble guy. He's not arrogant or ****y like Mayweather. He doesn't talk about himself in the 3rd person like Miguel Cotto does. So why would people pick on him? Mayweather i can see because fans and fellow boxers don't like the guy but you never ever heard anyone accuse him of steroids. Also something that really made me believe he's on something illegal is when I think it was Freddie Roach or Ariza said "Manny doesn't even know what steroids are". Come on now.. He doesn't know what steroids are?? Do you actually believe Manny doesn't know what steroids are?? That right there just made me believe even more that Manny is doing something illegal. Obviously I can't prove it and nobody has proved he's on steroids but like the saying goes... Where there's smoke there's fire. It just feels like when McGuire and Sosa and all of these baseball players started hitting the ball out of the park out of no where. Sosa who averaged around 30 homers a year jumped and hit 60 a year. Nobody could prove that he did steroids but alot of fans were watching with su****ion. You think the Boxing Commissions care? Of course they don't because they're all making millions just like MLB was making millions. I really hope Manny isn't doing anything but to me it looks like he is. If someone slandered my good name and accused me of something illegal that would tarnish my legacy and career I would SUE the **** out of them. Manny hasn't even addressed it at all nevermind suing them. You have to wonder why that is.

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      • Chang Mo Kei
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        Teri Tom, MS, RD, is a board member of the Bruce Lee Foundation and a certified Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do instructor under Sifu Ted Wong.

        Teri is also a registered dietitian with a BA in communications studies from UCLA, a master's degree in nutritional science from California State University, Los Angeles, and a certificate in personal training from the National Academy of Sports Medicine. She specializes in sports nutrition and runs her practice out of the exclusive SportsClub/LA in West Los Angeles.

        She has been Pac's nutritionist since the the pre-DLH fight.

        Tom said she was challenged to build up Pacquiao’s body mass without compromising his speed and power when he decided to move up two weight classes to fight De la Hoya.

        “Manny has a history of dipping into the 130s only several weeks into training which was fine when he was fighting at a lower weight but this time, we had to keep him heavy so he’d have some heft going into the ring with Oscar,” wrote Tom in her book “Martial Arts Nutrition.”

        Tom said in Pacquiao’s diet, she increased the frequency of his meals and switched his supplements. She introduced a protein shake of about 20 grams in the morning before jogging and another 20 grams after his workout in the afternoon. There was also a mid-morning snack, usually an egg sandwich. The goal was to build his muscle mass.

        Eating a lot of calorie-laden food at his favorite Thai restaurant beside the Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles was not a problem in Tom’s program.

        “When you’re Manny, you burn through calories like there’s no tomorrow,” said Tom. “My feeling is if he’s four to six percent body fat and losing muscle is a concern, I’m not going to quibble about the Thai restaurant and coconut sauces. It’s more important that he get those calories in and that it’s palatable to him and that he enjoys his food. A lot of people ask me about the four cups of rice he’ll have. Again, not a problem when body fat is coming down and we are preserving muscle.”

        Tom said a careful balance of nutritional intake is crucial during Pacquiao’s training period. “Carbohydrate intake during extended bouts of exercise has been proved to improve performance,” she noted. “Carbohydrates are key to fueling your alertness and skill whether you’re training or competing.”

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #5
          Not to accuse Pacquiao but he is a rare case. If he indeed isn't cheating, I gotta give him all the credit in the world.

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          • markfrombrookly
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            Originally posted by Chang Mo Kei
            Teri Tom, MS, RD, is a board member of the Bruce Lee Foundation and a certified Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do instructor under Sifu Ted Wong.

            Teri is also a registered dietitian with a BA in communications studies from UCLA, a master's degree in nutritional science from California State University, Los Angeles, and a certificate in personal training from the National Academy of Sports Medicine. She specializes in sports nutrition and runs her practice out of the exclusive SportsClub/LA in West Los Angeles.

            She has been Pac's nutritionist since the the pre-DLH fight.

            Tom said she was challenged to build up Pacquiao’s body mass without compromising his speed and power when he decided to move up two weight classes to fight De la Hoya.

            “Manny has a history of dipping into the 130s only several weeks into training which was fine when he was fighting at a lower weight but this time, we had to keep him heavy so he’d have some heft going into the ring with Oscar,” wrote Tom in her book “Martial Arts Nutrition.”

            Tom said in Pacquiao’s diet, she increased the frequency of his meals and switched his supplements. She introduced a protein shake of about 20 grams in the morning before jogging and another 20 grams after his workout in the afternoon. There was also a mid-morning snack, usually an egg sandwich. The goal was to build his muscle mass.

            Eating a lot of calorie-laden food at his favorite Thai restaurant beside the Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles was not a problem in Tom’s program.

            “When you’re Manny, you burn through calories like there’s no tomorrow,” said Tom. “My feeling is if he’s four to six percent body fat and losing muscle is a concern, I’m not going to quibble about the Thai restaurant and coconut sauces. It’s more important that he get those calories in and that it’s palatable to him and that he enjoys his food. A lot of people ask me about the four cups of rice he’ll have. Again, not a problem when body fat is coming down and we are preserving muscle.”

            Tom said a careful balance of nutritional intake is crucial during Pacquiao’s training period. “Carbohydrate intake during extended bouts of exercise has been proved to improve performance,” she noted. “Carbohydrates are key to fueling your alertness and skill whether you’re training or competing.”
            So you're saying she found what no other trainer or nutrionist has been able to ever find for years and years. Why doesn't she get ANY credit then if she's the main reason for Pacs new found power, speed, and endurance?? You would at least think Pac would give her a shout out on the 24/7 or post fight interview.

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            • Freddy Krueger
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              I believe he may have been draining himself for awhile, and not sure if he realized it until now. I think 140 is his best weight though. I won't be shocked if they ask for 145 against Floyd, because Manny is definitely best at 140.

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              • vincevaler
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                #8
                So a guy can't put in work and just be that good? He has to be good but only to a certain believable extent to you.

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                • Too Much 4U
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                  Someone has to make some money from PacMans nutrition. If you're looking to gain strength, power and speed with out gaining fat I like to know how. I would buy what ever it is as long as its not steroids or any substance that can hurt me when I'm older.

                  Seriously who ever is Pacquiaos nutritionist should try to make some big amount of cash.

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                  • jdn
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                    Originally posted by Freddy Krueger
                    I believe he may have been draining himself for awhile, and not sure if he realized it until now. I think 140 is his best weight though. I won't be shocked if they ask for 145 against Floyd, because Manny is definitely best at 140.
                    Like what ****m Richardson said before. Pacman fooled us all fighting in the lower weights all these years and making a perception that his a featherweight when really he belongs in the welterweight division. His no midget.

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