Who would win? Mormeck vs Jirov

[Exciterx30]

Well, now that Cruiserweight is up to 200 lbs, I'd pick Mormeck. If it was still 190 then Jirov would have the nod. I think Braithwaite would kill Jirov as a 190 pound cruiser, too!

Boricua, I have to disagree here. I really think that Jirov would outwork Braithwaite and get a hard fought UD. Against Mormeck, I don't know. The guy is a tank. One thing to keep in mind is that Jirov might not be the same fighter he was some years ago. He's been in a couple of tough fights with Toney and Moorer and no one knows how he will do when he faces a solid opponent again.

[SacTown1]

I love conversations about mismatches....

Mormeck KO 1

Jirov wasn't even good when he was good, I saw him struggle with Julian Letterlough in Reno a few years back, and I told everyone with an ear that when Jirov fights somebody with a pulse (Toney, Mesi, Moorer are the only 3 he's fought) that he'll get worked over, and that's exactly what DID happen, and exactly what WOULD happen if he fought a bruiser like Mormeck

[Exciterx30]

I love conversations about mismatches....

Mormeck KO 1

Jirov wasn't even good when he was good, I saw him struggle with Julian Letterlough in Reno a few years back, and I told everyone with an ear that when Jirov fights somebody with a pulse (Toney, Mesi, Moorer are the only 3 he's fought) that he'll get worked over, and that's exactly what DID happen, and exactly what WOULD happen if he fought a bruiser like Mormeck

Being a Jirov fan(not a hugger), I must reply to this post. The fight against Toney was very close, I could not care less about the scorecards. Even Lederman had it a draw. The fight with Mesi, well I don't think I need to go there but it's obvious that Jirov lost the battle but won the war. The fight with Moorer was an easy one for Jirov. He was comfortably ahead but he got carried away and got koed, simple as that. In all three fights Jirov had his moments and he was close to winning all of them.

[riz]

Being a Jirov fan(not a hugger), I must reply to this post. The fight against Toney was very close, I could not care less about the scorecards. Even Lederman had it a draw. The fight with Mesi, well I don't think I need to go there but it's obvious that Jirov lost the battle but won the war. The fight with Moorer was an easy one for Jirov. He was comfortably ahead but he got carried away and got koed, simple as that. In all three fights Jirov had his moments and he was close to winning all of them.

well said
he was close in all 3

[SacTown1]

Being a Jirov fan(not a hugger), I must reply to this post. The fight against Toney was very close, I could not care less about the scorecards. Even Lederman had it a draw. The fight with Mesi, well I don't think I need to go there but it's obvious that Jirov lost the battle but won the war. The fight with Moorer was an easy one for Jirov. He was comfortably ahead but he got carried away and got koed, simple as that. In all three fights Jirov had his moments and he was close to winning all of them.

No question that they were competitive fights, but coming in 2nd place in a boxing match is not honorable, and it's hard to root for guys who can't handle the big-time, Jirov is an ESPN superstar but will always come up short vs. world-class competition, which means that he is NOT a world-class competitor, he is simply a good athlete who beats nobody's and loses to somebody's

[masterdirector]

Jirov is better than I gave him credit for, but still not as good as others give him credit for either.

Toney completely outboxed Jirov. Toney clearly won the fight. I'd welcome a heavyweight rematch, but not yet. I'd want Jirov to get some wins under him to build his confidence and maybe even improve. I'd still take Toney to win.

And it is hard not to take Mormeck to beat Jirov, but I've only seen Mormeck beat the **** out of Braithewaite, who I thought was the best cruiserweight easily, so yeah. Mormeck seemed rock hard at cruiser and he weighed in at 198, so I don't think it'd be hard at all for him to add 10 lbs and be a decent heavyweight.

Some hate Max Kellerman, but he does say a lot of right things. He was the first I heard talking about the heavyweight division almost naturally dividing into two weight classes that he believes need to exist...the heavyweight and super heavyweight divisions. You got your smaller heavyweights like Toney, Jirov, Jones (not now but yeah), JC Gomez, etc and you have your big heavyweights like the Klitschkos, McCline, etc.

It isn't developed enough yet to split, but in a few years if the heavyweight division explodes, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.

[hollister]

Jirov wouldn't get hit like Braithwaite did, and unlike Big truck, he fights pretty well on the inside. Mormeck runs out of gas down the stretch, and Jirov, who won't be out of gas like Big Truck, will be able to take advantage of it. Big Truck showed no defense in that fight, that's why he got caught so much, Jirov won't do that. Just an opinion.

[The Troll]

If Jirov decided to move back down to crusier and was comfertable at the weight, who do you think would win, why would he win, and how would the fight play out?

This fight is on the list of the fights I most want to see in 2006.