Bull**** removed, styles make fights and Floyd's style is the one to beat Pac

[2501]

I agree with most of what you said after the first paragraph

And Floyd is a better technical fighter than Pac and I don't think Pac can overcome that regardless of how fast his hands are and how awkward his punches come at you...

True, but like they say, in boxing, anything can happen. Pac has the stamina and athletic ability to make Floyd rotate and get caught. the problem is, he has to get close to Floyd to do that. Floyd would have to be more active in this fight than he has in 8 years. But he would do it carefully and methodically. It's not a PPV worthy fight IMO. Of course, I would still buy it.

[-EX-]

True, but like they say, in boxing, anything can happen. Pac has the stamina and athletic ability to make Floyd rotate and get caught. the problem is, he has to get close to Floyd to do that. Floyd would have to be more active in this fight than he has in 8 years. But he would do it carefully and methodically. It's not a PPV worthy fight IMO. Of course, I would still buy it.

Floyd got pretty active once he realized Hatton was starting to gas...but yea he chooses his punches wisely...

And IMO Pac doesn't have the power to hurt Floyd with one shot...and no I don't give a **** about him dropping Cotto with a punch he didn't see...especially when Cotto's defense is just to keep his gloves high or cover up...

And you and I know this fight would be on PPV.

[MOREBASS]

Good post 2501.


I agree, and this is a very tough fight and I'd be hesitant to ever bet against Floyd. Against Marquez, I thought that Floyd might be able to be lured into a gunfight because he was fighting a much smaller and outmatched opponent...


I was wrong.


You are absolutely correct.

Floyd doesn't give two ****s about the fans of the sport or entertaining anyone watching. He's there to win, and do so in the most effective way possible.


Where I do think Manny could have some success is in his combination punching and the angles they come from. Floyd's defensive positioning and the way he rolls punches and picks them off might not be as effective with the very unorthodox angles that Manny throws from.

Also, Floyd is unmatched in his ability to block punches, but on more than one occasion we've seen him get tagged by those 3rd, 4th, and 5th punches.

The man is definitely not un-hittable.

[2501]

Floyd got pretty active once he realized Hatton was starting to gas...but yea he chooses his punches wisely...

And IMO Pac doesn't have the power to hurt Floyd with one shot...and no I don't give a **** about him dropping Cotto with a punch he didn't see...especially when Cotto's defense is just to keep his gloves high or cover up...

And you and I know this fight would be on PPV.

**** yeah it is. and its not like I dont appreciate how Floyd fights, I love it. I mean, Chad Dawson son. But I don't like fighters like Floyd and Chad headlining PPV's because these events are all about entertainment. But the financial implications of this fight are on a monstrous level. Imagine 3-4 million PPV buys?

[Burner]

As a matter of fact, Floyd's style has been specifically crafted, molded to beat ANY style. Lets face it, Floyd doesn't give a **** about casual fans. He doesn't give a **** what is good for the sport. He's just trying to cash out as much as he can. To him, this is a business and thats it. "Legacy don't pay the bills".

To avoid an "L" on his record, he'll take the least risks possible. He doesn't care how boring the win would be. He would have already suckered casual fans into buying the fight. The money is would already be there. Regardless, Cotto pretty much showed how you can be effective against Pacquiao besides just counterpunching. Its exactly what I've been saying prior to the fight. You have to jab and be first.

Prior to the Cotto/Pacquiao fight, I asked you to ask yourselves, is Cotto a better technician than Marquez? Is he a better counterpuncher? Manny Cotto fans FOOLISHLY believed Cotto was an all around better fighter than Marquez. But obviously, you saw that he wasn't. Cotto was extremely fast, but didn't have the tools to put his attributes together. He didn't have the experience or ring intelligence to utilize his hand speed and timing.

But you know who does. Floyd "I'm back for legacy, but then again Legacy don't pay the bills, especially if legacy is on steroids, unless legacy's name is Manny Pacquiao" Mayweather.

Floyd has the speed to stick the jab, the intelligence to set up quick right hands and counter punching ability to make Pacquiao cautious. The only true way I can see Pacquiao winning this fight is by becoming very physical with Floyd. Finding a way to get on the inside and rough him up because lingering on the outside would make him a target for Floyd's right hand. Unlike Hatton, Pacquiao has quick enough hands to throw combinations from a close distance, but he would run risk of getting pot shotted. He just may have the beard to withstand it though. He also has the stamina and agility to keep throwing from angles. I think this is a fight were would would see floyd get hit the most and possibly be hurt.

But, regardless, Floyd's style is just wrong for Pacquiao. But, then again, Pacquiao is not the same fighter in every fight. He just gets better.

Anyway, I'm not just talking out of my ass..

Godman right.......

He whoops Pacs ass up and down the ring...PERIOD.

Hes the best in the world..it will take a miracle to beat him.

GREAT post.

Its Floyd job to win fights...and he wins fights by displaying defense and counter punching.

Pac "wins" fights by offense, speed and power.

THEY BOTH WIN.

Who gives a **** how its done.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I give Mosley a great chance to beat Floyd too. Pretty much, any fighter with some smarts, speed and power can be a threat to Floyd. I don't buy this "Mosley has no legs" BS. I think he's going to surprise a lot of people against Berto.

That's actually a fact.

[S A M U R A I]

Mayweather exposed one of Hatton's major defensive Flaws. He's prone to quick shots, especially quick lefts.

You ought to give some credit to Collazo.



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[Don Johnson]

Floyd is a greatfighter but, he's got to catc an L one of these days and I truly believe Pac is the man who can do it. I never was and never will be a fan of him or his style and I really don't know how good he is at 147 yet, he hasn't fought anybody yet. If he didn't ***** out against Cotto, Marg ,and Shane maybe we'd know.

[-EX-]

Floyd is a greatfighter but, he's got to catc an L one of these days and I truly believe Pac is the man who can do it. I never was and never will be a fan of him or his style and I really don't know how good he is at 147 yet, he hasn't fought anybody yet. If he didn't ***** out against Cotto, Marg ,and Shane maybe we'd know.

Sure Don...and Miami Vice was a great show

[S A M U R A I]

Floyd is a great BOXER. Not a great fighter.

Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter.

Manny learned to fight for his family's survival. He went pro beacuse he had no other choce.

Floyd fights for money and was raised by a family of BOXERS, not FIGHTERS.

Floyd potshots and runs around, he gets a UD or SD. Floyd FIGHTS with Manny, he gets knocked the **** out.

End of story.



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