Much respect to Cotto and Pacquiao but...

[Dondi33O]

puerto rico should build a pacq statue in san juan, pr

That line is old.
My response for that the first time it was said...Yes they should build a statue so that the pidgeons have something to **** on.
****** statements ****** responses.

[Aracibo04]

Dondi,

make take on this is that first of all manny beat him fair and square.. cotto agreed to 145 and maybe did not rehydrate up all the way because he said he wanted to rehydrate up to 155. he was healthy in that aspect.

cotto;s problem is as atlas put it "damaged goods" I refused to believe that until the fight.. i don't think its mental I definitely think is physical.... other fighters might suffer a broken nose but I have never seen some ones nose bleed as much as cotto's... simply put... you break cotto's nose (margarito did it), he starts to bleed and can't breathe properly and therefore he can't hit as a hard. he was already spitting blood by the sixth round. manny definitely convinced me that is cotto's weakness now.

clotty was not a high volume puncher and that is why you did not see blood coming out and cotto spitting blood. but if he was the same thing would have happend to cotto. if cotto faces a high volume fighter with decent strength the same thing will happen. Thats my take on it.

margo definitely hurt him beyond remedy and recovery..

by the way, I am not saying that manny would have lost, all i am saying is that the fight would have been more competitive and woujld have lived up to what most fans though it would have been a 50/50 fight.

[Pullcounter]

Much respect to Cotto and Pacquiao, first let me say that Cotto is a very good fighter and still strong and tough, While Pac is a great fighter and Champion but
I think That Cotto is now officially messed up in the head and all his opponents know this. I dont feel Cotto can "go to war" anymore to win a fight, I feel he has lost the will do "dig deep". Everytime Cotto fights a rough opponent, be it Marg. Clottey, Pac and hits them hard they all messed with his head by smiling, pounding there stomach or head to act as if it does not hurt and Cotto backs off almost in fear(I think he is affected mentally) If Boxing is 90% in the mind then Cotto has lost that edge.
As for Pac , he is great, the best , p4p and all that but why if he is so great why didn't he fight Cotto at 147 like he was supposed to? Now he keep in mind I give him his props but why must he try and give his opponents a disadvantage before the fight? If he goes for the belt at 154 will he challenge the champ at 150? and will it be allowed? I think he is great but a rule should not be bent for any fighter?
Opinions?

1) cotto was never as invincible or as intimidating as his hype made him out to be

2) this version of pac destroys any version of cotto

[Bretty Poy32]

That line is old.
My response for that the first time it was said...Yes they should build a statue so that the pidgeons have something to **** on.
****** statements ****** responses.

jsut kidding homie!

[Dondi33O]

1) cotto was never as invincible or as intimidating as his hype made him out to be

2) this version of pac destroys any version of cotto

Im sorry but did someone say anything about what your stating?
Who said invincible? Who said Intimidating? What is with the versions?
Just respond to the thread and stop the hate. Your hate surpasses your knowledge.

[Alibata]

Cotto didn't fight at 147 because Roach didn't let him. He knows very well that 147 is the weight where Cotto is comfortable and at his best. Cotto has always been weak at 145 , weak chin , weak punches and no stamina.
If Pac is so great why didn't Roach let Cotto fight at his best ? Maybe Pac would have still beat him but we will never truely know and that question will forever remain.
All this cathweight BS is what's tarnishing his legacy. Pac is a great fighter but Cotto can give him a lesson in what being an honorable warrior is all about.

Pac would beat Cotto at any weight. Miguel looked healthier than hes ever been. Most everyone that seen that fight would agree.

[Dondi33O]

Cotto didn't fight at 147 because Roach didn't let him. He knows very well that 147 is the weight where Cotto is comfortable and at his best. Cotto has always been weak at 145 , weak chin , weak punches and no stamina.
If Pac is so great why didn't Roach let Cotto fight at his best ? Maybe Pac would have still beat him but we will never truely know and that question will forever remain.
All this cathweight BS is what's tarnishing his legacy. Pac is a great fighter but Cotto can give him a lesson in what being an honorable warrior is all about.

Very well said.
I still believe that Cotto's mind is not all there anymore.Wish it was but I dont believe it is.

[Dondi33O]

Pac would beat Cotto at any weight. Miguel looked healthier than hes ever been. Most everyone that seen that fight would agree.

All well and good but truthfully within yourself and anyone else and because of the New Belt and New Rules we will never really know.
Do you think it would be fair to the 154 pound champion if they make him fight for his belt against Pac at 150 and create another new belt?

[Kevin Jesus]

Pacquiao wanted it at 142, Cotto wanted it at 145, he got it at 145 and said he felt comfortable with 145, so he got murked at 145. No excuses.

[Dondi33O]

Pacquiao wanted it at 142, Cotto wanted it at 145, he got it at 145 and said he felt comfortable with 145, so he got murked at 145. No excuses.

Im sorry did I mention an excuse or did you only skim through the thread?
All 147 pound champions have fought for the belt at 147. We created a new belt and a whole new rule for this fight, I suppose it would be ok if we keep creating belts at weights in between weight classes.
This is not about hate on either fighter, I gave them both props and both skepticism.