Mayweather Ready To Fight "One-Dimensional" Pacquiao

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  • Jiddu Dali
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    #341
    Originally posted by Gabilan
    Yeah genius. There's a difference between walking weight and fighting weight. At 147 Hatton did not have the strength to overpower his opponents and was a lot slower. Use your head, it's not simply a question of making the weight (in this case Hatton at 140) but what weight is your optimal fighting weight. For Hatton it is obviously 140. He never had to drain himself to make 140; he had to work hard to make it because he blew up so much between fights but that's completely different.

    If 147 was so much better for Hatton why didn't he move up permanently? In fact, why did he go back down after winning a controversial decision over Collazo? The only reason he went up to 147 was to collect a paycheck seeing as Mr. "I'm not a true welterweight" Mayweather refused to fight him at 140 for some reason.

    In the end Hatton was undefeated at his prime weight until Pac destroyed him in 2.

    Use your head bro.
    So Hatton could fight @ 140 his whole career and he obviously wasnt that weight on fight night, But he couldnt weigh in @ 145lbs & fight effectively vs Mayweather?

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    • switchsouthpaw
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      #342
      Originally posted by Gabilan
      I don't know what to tell you man. That is one ignorant post you put up there. Both are gifted fighters. And please tell me how PAC's boxing skills are limited? Or do you just repeat what Floyd spews?
      I agree, there are plenty of gifted people in this world, the measuring stick for greatness is competition, you don't get judged strictly on ability, that ability must be tested against worthy competition. Some of Floyds' fans just want to anoint him the greatest fighter ever based on ability alone, that is silly.

      Put it this way, Marquez knew very well that he was at an incredible disadvantage moving up 2 divisions to fight Floyd, but he still took the opportunity, because with it comes the possibility of greatness. Anyone here including Floyd fans seriously think Floyd would do that if the ball were in his court? If Paul Williams said to Floyd meet me at 154, think Floyd would take the challenge?

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      • handler000
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        #343
        Originally posted by Gabilan
        I don't know what to tell you man. That is one ignorant post you put up there. Both are gifted fighters. And please tell me how PAC's boxing skills are limited? Or do you just repeat what Floyd spews?
        Where should I start? NO defense makes you a limited fighter. Throwing punches with your eyes closed makes you a limited fighter. Lunging in off balance makes you a limited fighter.

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          #344
          Sign a 50-50 split and fight.

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          • handler000
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            #345
            Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
            What "welterweight" of note or distinction has he beaten in recent years? He fought a faded De La Hoya, who fought once a year and for the first half of that fight he (Mayweather) didn't appear all that dominant.
            So what was De La Hoya when PAC fought him?

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              #346
              Originally posted by handler000
              Where should I start? NO defense makes you a limited fighter. Throwing punches with your eyes closed makes you a limited fighter. Lunging in off balance makes you a limited fighter.
              Moving up in weight while winning titles in 7 weight classes, while starting your career out at 106 pounds and winning your first at 112-- that's limited lol?

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              • switchsouthpaw
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                #347
                Originally posted by handler000
                So what was De La Hoya when PAC fought him?
                A promoter who fought once a year.

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                • tesla_power
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                  #348
                  Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                  After rd 3 it will turn into an easy counter punching fest. Manny is smaller, shorter, his defense is not existent. He lunges in with punches, and he gets frustrated. I can see Mayweather purposely out boxing him from the outside with jabs keeping Manny at a distance. Let's be realistic here, Manny is NOT gonna walk through Floyd...he is the same size as Marquez. Floyd will be the much bigger fighter that night. I think Mayweather could easily fight @154lbs.

                  Manny will stretch for punches without even knowing his face is wide opened to being countered because he has gotten away with it all this time. Morrales, Marquez showed how a right handed dominant fighter can handle Manny's left and keep him from swarming in. I see Pacquiao wanting to fight and getting hyped up by the crowd and being overly aggressive. Mayweather doesnt play to the crowd and will be fine with boxing to a UD. He is the smarter fighter. No way Manny can outbox Mayweather in the middle of the ring like he did Cotto.

                  Look how many time Cotto hit Pacquiao....Pac wasnt that fast
                  IMO, mayweather may get the win but he won't get out of this one unscatched. Both are just unorthodox as hell. Pbf's defense has already been proven against conventional styles. Can it also contain pac's style? You can argue speed and reflexes for both that it would almost be insignificant. The only thing that I worry is the arm reach of pbf and without a significant speed advantage, this might prove worrisome for pac.

                  You keep referring to the many times that Cotto hit Pac. Please remember that a slow Jmm also hit Pbf flush ( I think 3-5 times ). I believe Jmm and Pac have the same arm length. If a slow jmm was able to hit pbf, then it is a no brainer that pac can hit pbf several times better than jmm.

                  The cotto fight also reinforced the fact that Pac's chin and power is quite good at WW. And that is an understatement. Pac went through hell in the early rounds and bust his nuts off to get that TKO against an elite WW ( Cotto is elite no matter how much you slice it )

                  The pbf-jmm fight only proved that Pbf's boxing skill, reflexes are still there. How will he react if he got hit with several hard combinations? When was the last time that Pbf got hit with a hard puncher and can he still take it? This are but few of the question for Pbf that will make this fight very much a toss up fight.

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                  • xAUGUSTUSx
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                    #349
                    Floyd obviously feels threatened byt Pacquaio. Pac has won over the poeple with his style. He did'nt have to be a loud mouth to get people to watch him. People watch Pac because they want to see him win people only watch floyd when there is a chance he might lose. Floyd is jealous of Pac and it's pretty pathetic. Floyd might not get hurt but he could never do that to cotto. He would've beat Cotto by decision and after the fight you would'nt even be able to tell that either guy was in a fight.

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #350
                      Originally posted by ^^Cody^^
                      Floyd don't need to "run" to beat Pacquiao. All he has to do is show his superior boxing skill and his ability to hit and not get hit. Floyd doesn't "run". He just outclasses his opponents who can't hit him.
                      He outclasses his opponents.
                      TRUE!!!
                      Who of his opponents had the more class??Zab"super canevas"??Rick??Diego"Gatti style(rip)?Gatti himself??Or an Oscar "post sturm"??

                      I always say that to you dudes,Floyd never looked great at 147 or 140...
                      His wins over Marquez,Zab and Oscar doesn't impress me.

                      Manny wins over Ricky,Oscar,Cotto did...But style make fights

                      I think Money should decision Manny,but he will put a marathon borefest,AVOID THE FIGHT,believe me,seeing how he showed respect to Marquezs power or Hattons assaults,he will show DAMN respect to Mannys....

                      Mayweather will match Pac speed,use his sperior's reach,height,defense and stay outside,run,def not punish Manny after what I saw against Cotto but outland him with potshots.
                      It's the more likely scenario,I give Manny real chances to hurt Floyd.

                      But if Cotto can outbox Manny for 4 rounds,Mayweather should be able for 12.
                      Now he's kinda one dimmensionnal,not so much,short,but how he hits with that speed is a danger for any fighter,and UNLIKE A PAVLIK,he doesn't need to plant his feet,he can throw those bombs moving,plus,from the southpaw stance,I can imagine Floyd testin the canevas.

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