Manny needs to lose to an up n comer

**MANGLER** · 11-16-2009, 09:08 AM

Pac ain't fightin no up n comers. Closest to it would be Bradley, who already got 2 belts to his credit. Or Berto, who'd be the top WW if he beat SSM.

**elgaringo** · 11-16-2009, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by robn0id

This is my first thread so please be gentle...

I'll start by saying I'm a great fan of Pacman so this is in no way a slight on his recent achievements. I certainly think that he belongs in the halls of greatness with the likes of Sugar Ray Leonard and Robinson.

I would love to see the Floyd/Pacman fight like everyone else. Whoever were to win that fight would go on to be the no1 p4p no matter what people's opinions are on that matter now. I think it would be great to see a new up and coming fighter take the winner of this fight down. It would be a great way for boxing to pass the mantle on to a new generation. Cotto, although a great fighter and one of my top 5 favourite boxers, hasn't really looked the same since margarito, hatton I never thought too highly of in the skills department and Oscar was certainly past his best. It would have ****** to see the pacman legacy ended by one of these guys despite the fact I like all of them.

I guess Berto is a possibility although he hasnt shown the kind of heart and desire that I would like to see from this new era champion. Everyone seems to be discounting him in the fight against sugar shane anyway. Is there any young up n comers that you guys see perhaps not beating pacman or floyd but if not, possibly becoming the next big thing? There isnt much boxing on here but I recently saw a guy fight called Valero. He was Columbian perhaps...I'm sure you guys know him. He seemed to be pretty ferocious although I cant say I have any idea how old he is.

I made sure not to mention any boxers that I didnt like so I should hopefully avoid some of the nerdrage that comes in replies to a lot of threads. Just interested what you guys think.

If he beats floyd he wouldn't need to fight anyone else in regard to legacy or anything else! Saying that, it would we something else if he could go on to fight and beat the likes of mosely........ anyone after this would be a step down and could be hard to get up for. So in that sense they could be considered up and comers. I see what your sayin.

**Squabbles94806** · 11-16-2009, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by mangler

Pac ain't fightin no up n comers. Closest to it would be Bradley, who already got 2 belts to his credit. Or Berto, who'd be the top WW if he beat SSM.

Paco would smoke em both

**robn0id** · 11-16-2009, 09:28 PM

I know that Pacs legacy won't require a fight with anyone younger. I guess what I'm looking for is a welterweight version of Tyson. Someone who appears on the scene with a huge knockout and a couple years later has basically slaughtered anyone else he has faced. I think thats the fight - PAC old warrior vs Crazy caged lion new boy. I guess the unfortunate fact is that there are no young tyson esque fighters out there. That was probably my question.

Is Victor Ortiz much good? Perhaps he's a hope in a couple years. Forgive my ignorance, I dont get a chance to see a great deal of boxing here.

**Pullcounter** · 11-16-2009, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by robn0id

This is my first thread so please be gentle...

I'll start by saying I'm a great fan of Pacman so this is in no way a slight on his recent achievements. I certainly think that he belongs in the halls of greatness with the likes of Sugar Ray Leonard and Robinson.

I would love to see the Floyd/Pacman fight like everyone else. Whoever were to win that fight would go on to be the no1 p4p no matter what people's opinions are on that matter now. I think it would be great to see a new up and coming fighter take the winner of this fight down. It would be a great way for boxing to pass the mantle on to a new generation. Cotto, although a great fighter and one of my top 5 favourite boxers, hasn't really looked the same since margarito, hatton I never thought too highly of in the skills department and Oscar was certainly past his best. It would have ****** to see the pacman legacy ended by one of these guys despite the fact I like all of them.

I guess Berto is a possibility although he hasnt shown the kind of heart and desire that I would like to see from this new era champion. Everyone seems to be discounting him in the fight against sugar shane anyway. Is there any young up n comers that you guys see perhaps not beating pacman or floyd but if not, possibly becoming the next big thing? There isnt much boxing on here but I recently saw a guy fight called Valero. He was Columbian perhaps...I'm sure you guys know him. He seemed to be pretty ferocious although I cant say I have any idea how old he is.

I made sure not to mention any boxers that I didnt like so I should hopefully avoid some of the nerdrage that comes in replies to a lot of threads. Just interested what you guys think.

i don't get it, why does he need to lose to an up and comer?

**DLT** · 11-16-2009, 09:54 PM

There are no up & comers to pass the mantle too. You could say Paul Williams but he isnt exactly a youngster anymore. Bradley, Berto, Valero, and Khan are good but not good enough to take over for the elite guys. The only young guy who is exciting like you say is Gamboa

**Ramamaiden** · 11-16-2009, 10:04 PM

There is a Mexican guy that is only 19 and i liked him very much. He still is veeeery green but he has an outstanding record and he has fight guys with pretty decent records themselves.
Here is a video of a fight, and his boxrec record.
One of the youtube comments, one guy says that Mayweather was planning on fighting this guy lolz. Don't know if it's true btw =P.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...8759&cat=boxer

**Anti~Jalandoni** · 11-16-2009, 10:11 PM

pac aint fighting cheap fights.....

**Anti~Jalandoni** · 11-16-2009, 10:13 PM

that alvarez never fought any superstars...
ahahah.....never fought outside mexico...ahahah

Manny needs to lose to an up n comer