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  • #4#king
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    #21
    Originally posted by Six Shooter
    I'm pretty sure i heard them tell Cotto to jab on a few occasions in the first 5 rounds.
    last time i heard his corner mention the jab was the second round...

    my point is, if im cotto's trainer, i tell my fighter, "if you dont want to get you ass kicked, you throw the jab, ok?" or "if youre not going to use your jab, im calling this fight."

    because that's exactly what the case was...and we all saw it...

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    • Heru
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      #22
      Originally posted by #4#king
      cotto's corner said "the jab is working" after the first round...other than that, they didnt say one thing other than simple words of encouragement...i know they never mentioned the jab again after the second round...

      i just feel bad for cotto, in a way...i know, he hired the douchebag trainer, but he still deserved better...
      Gonna have to check it out again. He used it in spurts and it was landing, but I felt he could have thrown it more.

      It's sad to see, that I was realizing Pacquiao's strategy before Cotto's corner. You know the strategy of letting Cotto throw the first minute or first half of the round, then jumping on him.

      The 9th round was the best example of that. He could've used an experienced trainer instead of Santiago, don't think it would've changed much though.

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      • one-Punch
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        #23
        Originally posted by #4#king
        last time i heard his corner mention the jab was the second round...

        my point is, if im cotto's trainer, i tell my fighter, "if you dont want to get you ass kicked, you throw the jab, ok?" or "if youre not going to use your jab, im calling this fight."

        because that's exactly what the case was...and we all saw it...
        Trainers can only do so much. This is a 1v1 sport. Sure, it's good to have someone in the corner to give you tips when your down, but at the same time, Cotto should of execpted this. And like I said before, a lot of people said this fight was Power vs Speed, but I truly believe, Manny has just as much power as Cotto, maybe even more.

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        • EDD1
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          #24
          Isnt his trainer a former assistant? I think this is one of those situation were he gave his homey the job and it cost him in the fight and I dont mean to say that it cost him the win, I believe they (his corner) put him in danger in the end when they send his ass back out there, a experienced trainer would have know the trouble he was in.

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          • #4#king
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            #25
            Originally posted by terrio
            Trainers can only do so much. This is a 1v1 sport. Sure, it's good to have someone in the corner to give you tips when your down, but at the same time, Cotto should of execpted this. And like I said before, a lot of people said this fight was Power vs Speed, but I truly believe, Manny has just as much power as Cotto, maybe even more.
            it is a 1v1 sport, as you say...sure...

            unfortunately for cotto, pacquiao had a very good gameplan once cotto stopped throwing his jab, and cotto resorted to trying to outspeed a powerful speed boxer on the inside...

            if cotto or his trainer thought cotto could go toe-to-toe with manny and win an inside brawl, i really want to know what kind of weed they have in puerto rico...or why they cant afford HBO videotape of any of manny's previous fights...

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            • Silencers
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              #26
              Originally posted by #4#king
              not really...cotto stopped throwing the jab...

              i give pac all the credit he deserves, but he didnt take away ****...he just landed inside bombs well after cotto stopped throwing the jab...

              watch the fight again if you want...because thats what happened...
              Pacquiao was coming over the jab with his right hand and was shooting straight left hands down the middle when Cotto threw his jab, he was also timing Cotto's jab so that he punched when Cotto punched knowing that he would get there first because he had the faster hands. He also started picking off the jabs with his gloves, some still got through but the success of the jab dropped off big time after the first. Pacquiao took it away.
              Last edited by Silencers; 11-15-2009, 04:37 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Chups
                I don't think it will make a difference even if Angelo Dundee or Futch is in Cotto's corner.


                Speaking of Dundee, when will he ever learn? I know he's old school and once you're on the other side of the fence and fighting "his" boxer, you'll be his enemy forever, but daym! Pacquiao makes him look like he doesn't know boxing at all...

                and forget Oscar, he doesn't know what hit him and he's still in denial stage! LMAO!!!

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                • rizkybizness
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by gopi11
                  Speaking of Dundee, when will he ever learn? I know he's old school and once you're on the other side of the fence and fighting "his" boxer, you'll be his enemy forever, but daym! Pacquiao makes him look like he doesn't know boxing at all...

                  and forget Oscar, he doesn't know what hit him and he's still in denial stage! LMAO!!!
                  excuse me....... what?????

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                  • Puya
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by #4#king
                    thats why boxers have men in their corner...amateur hour cotto trainer didnt even mention the jab but once...

                    sad...
                    Do you think roash will want to train Cotto after this??

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                    • Bobby Shaw
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by #4#king
                      his corner is an embarrassment to the sport, and to a great fighter in cotto...

                      im a pac fan, and believe he would have won the fight anyways, but why did cotto's corner not tell his ass to throw the jab which was so effective in the first round?

                      maybe that's why amateur hour trainers are not such a good idea for mega fights...

                      if cotto throws his jab for 12 rounds, he has a legit shot to win this fight...im not making excuses, because im a pac fan anyways...but as a boxing fan i just dont understand why cotto's corner was so interested in seeing cotto's face bashed in with inside bombs...
                      He chose his corner so he's the bigger fool.The likes of Manny Steward asked to be in his corner but he was carrying himself like this boss who knows it all.Cotto was overated anywhere and we have always said that.

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