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  • #71
    Originally posted by BoxCleva View Post
    I'm undecided on the final outcome of the fight, just wondering if he could actually KO Pac. I do think he was genuinely trying to KO Marquez, why would he say "I was trying to knock him out" in interviews after the fight.. Marquez had never been KO'd before of course, Manny has but his punch resistance seems almost as good as Marquez these days..
    floyd says that...but he also said that boldo and gatti were tough fights...which they clearly weren't...he said he tried...but if you think that's all he can do when "trying"...he's got you fooled...floyd is an extremely cautious fighter...so much that he won't even throw if he doesn't think he can hit you flush...but when you are scared to even throw a punch like marquez was after round 7...mayweather not going in to finish you is more than mercy...after their exchanges...after mayweather stuck marquez and marquez retreated...mayweather did not follow him...he didn't throw any combos...he could have...but he didn't...if marquez backed up too much...mayweather wouldn't follow and would wait for marquez to attempt to exchange again before countering and making him reset...that doesn't sound like trying to ko someone...he didn't even try to exchange after he knocked him down in the second round...

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    • #72
      Originally posted by BoxCleva View Post
      Do you think Mayweather could stop Pacquiao, considering he couldn't stop Marquez and admitted he was trying to KO him?
      Depends on who is really more durable? We have seen Marquez come off the mat to devastate the end of fights. Manny has not been in that situation before. I was really sunned that he took Cotto's shots so well but I do know he was hurt at one point in the middle rounds whether he admits to it or not.

      My thinking is that a) Floyd will avoid damage a lot better than Cotto did and when the later rounds roll around and Pac is more vulnerable, PBF will still have enough wind and power to stop him, and b) he will hit Manny cleaner and more often than he's ever been hit before. It's obvious that the jab pumping and a straight right will get the job done against Manny but Cotto didn't use the jab enough after the first round and his right hand was too slow and weak to really get the job done.

      I know there's a surge of Pacman followers right now and there should be, he deserves it. I just think, given the styles, Floyd is exactly what Manny needs to avoid to keep the streek going. I would love to see anyone out of Shane, Floyd and Packy face one another. Those are three of the best fights in boxing right now.

      The problem is money though, as everyone already knows. This fight won't happen unless it's 50/50 and I know Floyd will not accept that deal even thought it's obvious he should. The fight would garner him legendary status if he wins it and if Manny wins, well I say he can't be worse than 5th all time geatest.

      That's out of everyone. You name it. Ali, Pep, Leonard, Jones, Tunney, Robinson, Louis and the list goes on and on.

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      • #73
        Pacquiao will get a UD in my opinion. It's conceivable that he could stop Mayweather.

        My logic: Mayweather will be going backwards most of the fight. Yes I know Floyd will be boxing and landing counterpunches but Pacs volume and forward agression will carry it.

        It could look a little like Hagler and Leonard. The difference will be that Pac is lightning fast and has that weird angle thing going. Hagler just plodded. But I see Floyd doing a similar thing like Leonard did. Try to win last 30 seconds of the round and get the round. The weird angles will be his key to getting through Floyds defense. How do you train for Pacs angles/speed??

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        • #74
          mmm that poll pretty much reflects it in my mind. 92 votes for floyd and 95 votes for pac. a pick em fight me thinks!

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          • #75
            Originally posted by screwhead1 View Post
            floyd says that...but he also said that boldo and gatti were tough fights...which they clearly weren't...he said he tried...but if you think that's all he can do when "trying"...he's got you fooled...floyd is an extremely cautious fighter...so much that he won't even throw if he doesn't think he can hit you flush...but when you are scared to even throw a punch like marquez was after round 7...mayweather not going in to finish you is more than mercy...after their exchanges...after mayweather stuck marquez and marquez retreated...mayweather did not follow him...he didn't throw any combos...he could have...but he didn't...if marquez backed up too much...mayweather wouldn't follow and would wait for marquez to attempt to exchange again before countering and making him reset...that doesn't sound like trying to ko someone...he didn't even try to exchange after he knocked him down in the second round...
            Mayweather didn't throw combos against Marquez because like you say, he's a very cautious fighter, he didn't want to get caught with a counter. The difference you have to remember is that Pacquaio's punch output is much higher than Marquez, so while that will give Mayweather plenty of opportunity to counter, it'll could also mean he'll be extra cautious and less offensive.. Pacquiao's high punch output might give the impression he's winning, even if he's missing a lot.

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            • #76
              Floyd by wide UD. But it would make my year if Im wrong and Pac puts him out. I just cant see it.

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