A Short (Incomplete) History Of Catchweight Fights In Boxing

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  • El Castigador
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    #21
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Burner you full of it... This is my last reply in this subject cuz you too biased to talk about this...

    What makes you think Floyd wouldn't endorse it? When Souliman came up with the idea Floyd didn't come out reject it... The diamond belt was going to be set for the JMM-Floyd fight... So apparently Floyd did endorse it... The only problem was they couldn't get the procedures done in time...


    Souliman used Pac like he was going to use Floyd to make money... But, OK he used it still does not counter my argument at all...


    My dude. That Diamond Belt **** was not gon fly with Floyd. He could careless abiut belts at this stage in his career.

    Well if you criticize Pac for doing it why not criticize everybody else for doing it? Again the double standards right? Especially you can not criticize the man when you was the main one who thought he was going to get his ass whooped...


    I criticized Diaz, Hopkins and Oscar.

    It don't matter how fat Oscar looked... He didn't train for Sturm... He saw Sturm KO ration and thought Sturm was going to be an easy fight... So he got lazy in training... Still got the decision for the WBO title and fought the lineal MW champ at a catchweight fight... But, yet you trying to make excuses for him? OK....


    I hate Oscar...lol. I was happy to see him get pummled. But considering how BAD he looked I want shcoked he asked for a catch weight. Pac LOOKED GREAT and asked for a cath weight. Big difference.

    How are you not going to call Oscar-Hopkins a risk for Oscar? Was you dumb enough to predict Oscar to beat Hopkins? Fact is nobody really gave Oscar a chance in that fight. So it was a risk...

    You criticize Pac cuz you're a hater... Is funny how you predict all these fighters to whoop his ass and then you want to criticize when he proves you wrong? But, if he would of lost any of those fights you would of said how overrated he is... How can you say he is going to lose and all this... And, then after the fact you going to call bull****?


    I criticized Pac for making Cotto weigh 145. He did that for an unfair advantage.

    The only reason Pac deserves criticism is because he took some of Floyd shine... That is the only reason why... I read your little post in the P-Will going back to WW thread where you "run Pac run" conveniently enough you didn't say run Floyd run... Why is that? Especially for someone who thinks P-Will can be Floyd why wouldn't you also mention Floyd name on that post? Oh I know why cuz Floyd would fight P-Will and there is no chance Pac will.


    My dude who is Floyds Manager? Now ask yourself who is Williams manager?
    Didnt Roach say they offered Williams the Pac fight? Do you believe them?

    .. See you're a hater against Pac.... Is known so I am not going to waste anymore of my time debating with you about this... cuz, in this subject you're very close minded...

    I criticized Hops wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more then I did Pac.

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    • ИATAS
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      #22
      All 3 Gatti-Ward fights were at 142 lbs.

      Juan Diaz v. Paulie Malignaggi was at 138.5-pound catchweight

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      • VoodooChild
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        #23
        Originally posted by El Castigador
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        Oscar spent 5 years at 154 then moved up 1 division to fight Sturm. Manny Spent 5 years at 126-130, had one fight at 135 then moved up 2 divisions to WW. They both ask for catchweights in their next fight and you criticize Manny??

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        • iHateThePacMan
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          #24
          Originally posted by El Castigador
          They did invent the Diamond Catchweight Belt for him. That is a FACT. He might not have been the first but that doesnt mean we cant criticize him for fighting Oscar at 147 then making Cotto weigh 145.
          You already have the hater mentality that cannot be persuaded. But For Your Information, Cotto was the one who asked for 145, roach/team wanted it 142-143, pac agreed to 145. Its like that needle BS, pac never said that

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          • VoodooChild
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            #25
            Originally posted by ИATAS206
            All 3 Gatti-Ward fights were at 142 lbs.

            Juan Diaz v. Paulie Malignaggi was at 138.5-pound catchweight
            Wow I didn't realise that

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            • SweetSci
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              #26
              I wish Catch-weight Fights would never happen, they are primarily used to create an illusion. Look at Pavlik vs Hopkins that's a fight that should not have happened.

              On paper the Two names sound great, end result is BS
              Same goes for DLH vs Juiceman, i mean Pacman.

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              • VoodooChild
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                #27
                Originally posted by SweetSci
                I wish Catch-weight Fights would never happen, they are primarily used to create an illusion. Look at Pavlik vs Hopkins that's a fight that should not have happened.

                On paper the Two names sound great, end result is BS
                Same goes for DLH vs Juiceman, i mean Pacman.
                A lot of great fights like Sweat Pea vs. JCC never would have happened then.

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                • DonTaseMeBrah
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                  #28
                  tommy hearns vs ray leonard 2. catchweight of 163 i think for the supermiddleweight title.

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