Joe C and J Lacy in the works!

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As for Lacy walking thru him in two..that is absolutely ridiculous, Joe will easily be the toughest fight of Lacy's young career.

I dont think so. I think Syd Vanderpool was. That was the biggest accomplishment at middleweight by anyone since Hopkins beating Tito.



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I think their competition is pretty equal. Lacy has fought Sheika and Vanderpool and Joe has fought Sheika and Mitchell. Byron Mitchell is as good as anyone Lacy has faced.

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Wtf are you talking about? Lacy has fought way better competition. You are actually saying Byron Mitchell is as good as Syd Vanderpool?

Reuben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced. Including Joe himself.

I refuse to engage in this discussion further.



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lol

Lacy has fought way better competition. You are actually saying Byron Mitchell is as good as Syd Vanderpool.

Yes. Mitchell was as good as Syd, easy, maybe better. Watch Mitchell and look at his resume compared to Pool's. This is not hard to see.

"Lacy has fought way better competition."

April Fool's Day is over, bud.

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Wtf are you talking about? Lacy has fought way better competition. You are actually saying Byron Mitchell is as good as Syd Vanderpool?

Reuben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced. Including Joe himself.

I refuse to engage in this discussion further.

Rueben Williams was one bad ass fighter against Lacy he was taking alot of punishment in that fight but I still think the ref stopped the fight way premature. He should have given Williams and 8 count not just stopped it. Williams legs and everything were fine at the point the fight was stopped.

Reuben Williams, if he fights like he did against Lacy in every fight can go places in boxing for sure, he has a cool style and is crackin counterpuncher and jabber.

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Rueben Williams was one bad ass fighter.

Yes he is. And relatively unknown as far as the supermiddle/middleweight picture is concerned. Calzaghe should face him, because I do not think he is ready even at this late stage of his career to face a tenacious opponent like Lacy.



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hmm

Yes he is. And relatively unknown as far as the supermiddle/middleweight picture is concerned. Calzaghe should face him, because I do not think he is ready even at this late stage of his career to face a tenacious opponent like Lacy.

Maybe he isn't. However, don't overrate R. Williams. He has beaten NO ONE. He has never faced or beaten a top 10 fighter. He doesn't seem to be a bad fighter, but he hasn't proved he is top 10 yet either.

Reid, Sheika, Vanderpool, Lucas, Beyer, Green, Lacy, Joe C. are all better and have resumes to prove it.

Reuben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced. Including Joe himself.

That's just flat-out not true. Reid, Sheika, and Mitchell could beat Williams. Calzaghe's opposition isn't great, but he could wax a guy like Williams. Joe took out Sheika quick fast in a hurry in 5 rds and Sheika went the distance with Lacy 4 years after Joe C. took him out.

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. Joe took out Sheika quick fast in a hurry in 5 rds and Sheika went the distance with Lacy 4 years after Joe C. took him out.

Those types of comparisons are worthless for this reason:

Joppy went the distance with Hopkins

He got obliterated by Tito

Following your logic you always use, that would mean
Tito>Hopkins which is simply not true. It makes no sense to me. I think Ruben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and I could care less about "records". They are proving meaningless every single day in boxing.

Look at John Ruiz.



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lol

Those types of comparisons are worthless for this reason:

No, it is not worthless when used in conjunction with other facts. Sheika is just one example of a common respected opponent both have fought. That is just one part of my argument. Calzaghe also beat Mitchell by stoppage who was a respected and powerful champion. Williams stepped up and got beat twice in fights where he tried to fight guys better than him.

I think Ruben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and I could care less about "records". They are proving meaningless every single day in boxing.

You can think that all you want, but you'll be hard pressed to find many people to agree with you because it is not based on good evidence.

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GEEZ GUYS, yet another thread discussing a fight with a 99.999% chance of NEVER happening....a fight being "in the works" or "being discussed" is media spin-doctor garbage, and for the 1st time I think both sides DON'T want the fight, Lacy is too young for a unification vs. a seasoned vet, and Calzone won't fight anybody with a pulse....this fight won't happen anytime soon, if it does well then shame on me for being negative and I'll see ya at the fight, but IMO this fight won't go down this calendar year

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Those types of comparisons are worthless for this reason:

Joppy went the distance with Hopkins

He got obliterated by Tito

Following your logic you always use, that would mean
Tito>Hopkins which is simply not true. It makes no sense to me. I think Ruben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and I could care less about "records". They are proving meaningless every single day in boxing.

Look at John Ruiz.

Apart from two flash knockdowns Joe hasn`t lost more than 4 rounds in any fight ( spare the Robin Reid fight and Reid`s good ).
He has fought bad opponents at times but has beaten them all.
Of world class fighters he has beaten he has performed at his best!
Charles Brewer ( nearly a shut out )
Omar Shieka ( destoryed )
Robin Reid ( close split dec )
Richie Woodhall ( TKO 10 )
Mario Viet ( KO within two mins )
Byron Mitchell ( 2nd rd KO )
Chris Eubank ( wide UD win )

Fact is Joe is a puncher and incredibly fast. He is the type of fighter that lifts his game if the opponent is world class. Lacy will be the, in my opinion, the second best opponent of his career and with the IBF title, world recoginition, and the break through fight all on the line i think Joe will meet the challenge. The bigger the fight, the better the performance. Joe KO`ed Viet quickly in one round, probably go the distance in the rematch only for Joe to dominate Lacy. I don`t like Calzaghe, his attitiude stinks but he is a great fighter on his day. Truly has lightneing fast speed and deadly power. Look at his wins against Mitchell and Sheika! When he is up for it he does perform. I hope, like everyone this fight is signed ( rumor is that it has been signed but yet to comfirm ) and we get to see who is the best. Lacy hasn`t fought better guys. He has fought good guys but Sheika shouldn`t have been able to do the things he did to Lacy. There are serious flaws there and untill someone can prove Calzaghe has one major flaw i`ll back him to win this fight.