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  • #51
    Originally posted by p4p-champ View Post
    I pretty funny when idiots claim Cotto is a quitter while being beaten for 11 rounds with plaster and bleeding out the ears. ******ity says, he should have stayed on his feet and waiting until he was comatoast.
    LOL , You Kill me LOL !!! You are some pore blind dude mang!

    Getting Ko'd mang is one thing, if you get up and say from yer heart mang , do that again mang, don't think you can do that again, and from yore heart you didn't QUIT and you go back will all the fury you fought with before then its evident you aren't a quitter !

    NOW LOL , if you are in a fight and starting to get beat and start that surviving stuff mang, and you come to a place in the trenches it gets to bad for you mang and you don't go down by a punch but in yer mind you say enough of this , I can't take it no more, I can't stand it mang , Please mang don't hit me no more I QUIT , then mang you shake that head mang , then YOU QUIT IN YER HEART mang.

    Huge difference !!!! Quit once you will Quit again ! Get Ko'd once or ten times doesn't make you a quitter , but one should hang up the gloves if he gets ko'd everytime he fights. Some are game , some fairly game, some are game when on top of the fight but quit when they enter the elite level of fighters.

    Pacmang to win mang TONITE ,,,,,,,,,Gooooooo Pacmang !

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
      Where's your proof that he didn't use it????? If you don't have any, STFU.
      Hey mang , you can't turn that around , you are making the accusation ! You must summit the proof !

      Go ahead , we are patiently waiting

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      • #53
        Originally posted by arcticfalconer View Post
        Hey mang , you can't turn that around , you are making the accusation ! You must summit the proof !

        Go ahead , we are patiently waiting
        Watch the Mosley fight........

        and dont **** with Dave, only I can do that....

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        • #54
          Originally posted by bluetuazon View Post
          that was a sick reply mr.dave.....NOT!!

          whether he used loaded gloves or not...we dont have any proof!! thats the reason why it shouldnt be an excuse...

          in america its suppose to be INNOCENT UNTIL ROVEN GUILTY right mr. dave????

          shame on him if he did...
          good win if he didnt...

          but until there is no proof...i think we all should shut the **** up...yes that includes YOU and me...

          comprende?
          The fact is that while there is no proof either way, there's a strong likelihood that he probably did use it. Of course it's possible that he didn't, but it's more likely that he did. You have to be incredibly biased not to see that, given that he did try to use plaster against Mosley, given that he was expected to lose to Cotto but was expected to beat Mosley, who was thought to be more or less shot after his performance against Mayorga - and therefore he had much more incentive to use it against Cotto than he did against Mosley; given the damage Margarito did to Cotto's face; given that he was never able to hurt Mosley, against whom he was unable to use plaster - and yet Cotto had beaten Mosley; and given that Cotto has taken bigger punches in the past without getting anything like that sort of damage.

          So although it is perfectly possible that he didn't, there is a huge asterisk over that fight, whether you like it or not. All boxing experts agree that there is a big asterisk. And because of that asterisk, you can't validly make any judgements about Cotto in the context of other future opponents, based on what happened that fight; and anyone who does so is either just a hater or delusional.

          And innocent until proven guilty only applies in a court of law. If you commit a crime and it can't proved against you, that doesn't mean you are actually innocent. In a court of law you are deemed innocent in that situation, but that doesn't mean you actually are. Andre Agassi wasn't innocent of taking drugs just because there was no proof at the time. We now know that he was guilty all along because he said so in his autobiography. In Margarito's case, we don't know, but the balance of probability is high enough to mean there is an asterisk against that fight, which means you can't validly judge Cotto as a fighter based on that fight.
          Last edited by Dave Rado; 11-14-2009, 01:51 PM.

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          • #55
            He should have said "Steroids concur all."

            I'll give Manny his props. The guy has balls. Who else would let a man with Parkinsons inject his ass with steroids? Freddy's shaking arm might miss and stab the needle into Manny's balls.

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