Roach Says Pacquiao Has To Start Fast in Round One

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  • Beater_of_ass
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    #71
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    I don't think anyone thinks Cotto won easily and the number who might is so small, I have to wonder why you're spending so much energy on this. But you don't have much an argument. When the best you can come up with is "Mosley said he probably won, not certainly" then your really grasping at straws. Then again, you don't seem to mind. You're not changing anyone's views but you've done a good job of convincing yourself.
    Thank you, nothing else needs to be said.

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    • prsi
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      #72
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      like I said I got good things to say about cotto and then bad things... if that isn't unbiased I don't know what is..
      Its biased when it comes to Pacquiao-Cotto beacuse you only bash Cotto even when you you think he will win.

      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      pac IS the better boxer and he IS too fast for cotto. that said, cotto's size advantage will be too much. no elite WW should be losing to someone coming from a lower division even if he is an elite in that lower weight class. that's what its a shame if cotto loses. pac got no business at WW and cotto should smash pac to bits. its academic. cotto is too big..
      When did you start to watch boxing?? Have you not seen how many great fighters move up in class weight and beat great fighters bigger and stronger??
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      it's ****in simple... last year pac was fighting jmm at 130 lbs, while cotto was fighting margo at 147 lbs. cotto has no excuse losing to pac. none.
      Yeah and he also fought at 140 and 145 after that. Weight on which both Roach and Pacquiao have agreed it's the most comfortable for them because he was being drained at 135 and below. The fact is that on fight night there will be aprox. 10 lbs differential, 1/2 height advantage and while they will share the same reach. Cotto has overcome more than that fighting in his own division against fighters like Clottey, Mosley and others.

      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      lol... it doesn't matter which elite WW is fighting pac, I'd say the same thing... any eltie WW has no business losing to a former 106 lber.
      Yeah but you don't mention that Cotto started his boxing career at 105lbs and you don't call that biased, double standards or bashing Cotto???


      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      lolz... i'm impartial and you know it. I have good things to say about cotto and bad things to say about cotto... the same as I have done for any boxer. all you cotto stans do is read my posts in cotto threads an dfilter out the good and only pick up the bad. if you spend anytime in any other threads others than those involving cotto you'd see that.
      The fact is that I have noticed how pathetic and impartial you are in other post but like you said I'm part of Cotto stans (and proud of it also but and unbiased person) so why should I follow you around those not involving Cotto, you are not worth it.

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      • freedom213
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        #73
        back to the topic I knew Roach and Pac or at least Roach would have this strategy and its a sound strategy basically because Pac is much smaller and I dont think can take the punishment Cotto would give him over 12 rounds. Also Cotto is far less powerful fighting off the back foot, he can do it just not as well as when he is coming forward. Of course this strategy is not without its share of risk. The more Manny engages and presses the action well he too could get blasted. Very interesting though.

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        • freedom213
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          #74
          Originally posted by prsi
          Its biased when it comes to Pacquiao-Cotto beacuse you only bash Cotto even when you you think he will win.


          When did you start to watch boxing?? Have you not seen how many great fighters move up in class weight and beat great fighters bigger and stronger??

          Yeah and he also fought at 140 and 145 after that. Weight on which both Roach and Pacquiao have agreed it's the most comfortable for them because he was being drained at 135 and below. The fact is that on fight night there will be aprox. 10 lbs differential, 1/2 height advantage and while they will share the same reach. Cotto has overcome more than that fighting in his own division against fighters like Clottey, Mosley and others.


          Yeah but you don't mention that Cotto started his boxing career at 105lbs and you don't call that biased, double standards or bashing Cotto???




          The fact is that I have noticed how pathetic and impartial you are in other post but like you said I'm part of Cotto stans (and proud of it also but and unbiased person) so why should I follow you around those not involving Cotto, you are not worth it.

          one of the most unbiased stans around....joking. Very well said but I think there are plenty of top welters Manny could beat, plenty that would give him serious problems too. Manny beating the **** out of David Diaz, Ricky Hatton and a weight drained and old Oscar dont prove he's this unbeatable force. He is what he is one of the best of this era and if he loses to Cotto nothing changes.

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            #75
            Originally posted by freedom213
            one of the most unbiased stans around....joking. Very well said but I think there are plenty of top welters Manny could beat, plenty that would give him serious problems too. Manny beating the **** out of David Diaz, Ricky Hatton and a weight drained and old Oscar dont prove he's this unbeatable force. He is what he is one of the best of this era and if he loses to Cotto nothing changes.
            Agreed and of course he can beat plenty of WW including Cotto if Cotto doesn't bring his A Game. That's how good Manny is and those who do not beleive that are just fools. Like fools that claim that Cotto will ba a shame for Boxing and should retire if he loses to Pacman, which by the way is also the
            the P4P best.
            That he will have a disadvantage in weight? Yes. In power? Yes, but he will have advantage in speed, stamina, movement, better corner and some say boxing skills (arguably) and that's what makes this fight a 50/50 fight.
            Off course I will be rooting for Cotto and I beleive he will win but that doesn't blind me from seeing that Pacman has a great chance, neither will it alter my admiration for the man as a boxer and a person.

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            • Aracibo04
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              #76
              Que se jodan toooooo !!!!Gueeerrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! Wait till saturday!!!!

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                #77
                Originally posted by Freddy Krueger
                that low blow warning before a low-blow is bs. Low-blows happen from body punches!

                If Pacquiao or Cotto gets deducted a point for one low blow that happens without a warning I'm going to flip!!!!!!!!!
                I agree. I don't like low blows, but roach seems scared for Manny. I wish roach would stop being a *****.

                Oh, and Pullcounter, you don't defend Cotto. You grudgingly accept his elite status and opine that he should win against Manny, but that is NOT defending him.

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                • Borko
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                  #78
                  can someone plz kill freddie roach, hes not a good **** talker like mayweather sr.
                  wait how long does it take for parkinson's disease to kill someone?
                  harsh much?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    I say good things about cotto too... its just that you stans filter out every good thing I say about cotto.
                    All you do is put Cotto on the ground when it comes to fighting, yea you give him compliments but when it comes to fighting to you he aint ****! Always going against him, but then you say that you like Cotto, that makes no sense homey.

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                    • TheUptownKid
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by freedom213
                      back to the topic I knew Roach and Pac or at least Roach would have this strategy and its a sound strategy basically because Pac is much smaller and I dont think can take the punishment Cotto would give him over 12 rounds. Also Cotto is far less powerful fighting off the back foot, he can do it just not as well as when he is coming forward. Of course this strategy is not without its share of risk. The more Manny engages and presses the action well he too could get blasted. Very interesting though.
                      if manny comes in I doubt cotto would back up just fight in a phone booth which manny doesn't want i think more important than starting fast is starting efficient with his speed advanage manny should be somewhere around 35-40% connect percentage to keep cotto off balance at least, otherwise cotto got big counters to manny being out of position

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