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  • #71
    Originally posted by Syf View Post
    Increased surface area doesn't reduce impact..

    it just changes the kind of damage done from more piercing..to more blunt
    It diffuses the force of impact over a larger area, thereby lowering the fp pressure per sq in.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Syf View Post
      I don't know what else to call it. DLH came into the fight positive he could win. Pac relieved him of that belief and made him quit for the first time in his career because Pac took his heart and broke his spirit.

      And, at the end of the day, none of us can know whether pac would have knocked him out or not...I choose to believe he could have. Your opinion is no more legitimate than mine when it comes to this issue, because its purely hypothetical
      Oscar was a dried out husk, and basically semi-retired for the past 5 years. I think ever since he lost both fights to Mosley.

      He was unsteady on his feet, very hesitant to move and reminded me exactly the way Castillo looked and performed against Hatton. WEAK.

      And considering that he gave Manny all credit for making him decide to completely retire, we have to believe Oscar when he said that Manny didn't punch hard. He meant, of course that a welterweight should not be bothered by Manny's power.

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      • #73
        heres the video of the press conference 4 those of u who have dial up...lol


        "boricua"

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        • #74
          Manny throw that Diamond belt straight in the bin.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by edgarg View Post
            It diffuses the force of impact over a larger area, thereby lowering the fp pressure per sq in.
            you are not factoring in added weight of the hand..

            Its like if you have a regular sized hammer.. and then another hammer with a wider head that also weighs a few ounces more..

            Your argument is the regular hammer does more damage? Ok. My argument is they do different kinds of damage.

            Blunt vs Piercing.

            Originally posted by Edgarg
            Oscar was a dried out husk, and basically semi-retired for the past 5 years. I think ever since he lost both fights to Mosley.
            Just like Corrales eh? Oh yes, I remember your post.

            Originally posted by Edgarg
            He was unsteady on his feet, very hesitant to move and reminded me exactly the way Castillo looked and performed against Hatton. WEAK.
            Or,,, Manny was just that good. Sure, Oscar not having been that light for several years was a factor, but remember he Fought Forbes and did aite.. at 150. So 8 lbs is going to make him a mummy? I don't get that. My body fluctuates 6lbs or so if I do more running than usual and skip a meal or two.

            Originally posted by Edgarg
            And considering that he gave Manny all credit for making him decide to completely retire, we have to believe Oscar when he said that Manny didn't punch hard. He meant, of course that a welterweight should not be bothered by Manny's power.
            This is a leap of logic I just don't get. If Oscar was humiliated in the ring, what else is he going to say? His star had faded almost completely by then. People weren't going to pay anymore for his PPV's and be dissapointed. It was a perfect time to retire.

            But.. if you know fighters and I'm sure you do, you know they love to claim they ain't get hurt. I get that in sparring all the time, hit em with a shot to the body, they smile shrug it off. Work that same spot, they smile, but its more strained... continue to work that spot...and.. the only time they stop pretending is when they kneel. But they pretend all the way up till then. Boxers LOVE to pretend, its part of the whole game. But all you need do is look at his face. There is a picture of it around here somewhere.

            He was hurt or he wouldn't have agreed to quit... Oscar just has a good chin, even with all the excuses you can throw at me.

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            • #76

              LET IT BEGIN! LET IT BEGIN!

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              • #77
                Originally posted by jclooney View Post
                Are they doing 10 oz. gloves?
                No they are doing 8 oz. gloves.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Syf View Post
                  you are not factoring in added weight of the hand..

                  Its like if you have a regular sized hammer.. and then another hammer with a wider head that also weighs a few ounces more..

                  Your argument is the regular hammer does more damage? Ok. My argument is they do different kinds of damage.

                  Blunt vs Piercing.



                  Just like Corrales eh? Oh yes, I remember your post.



                  Or,,, Manny was just that good. Sure, Oscar not having been that light for several years was a factor, but remember he Fought Forbes and did aite.. at 150. So 8 lbs is going to make him a mummy? I don't get that. My body fluctuates 6lbs or so if I do more running than usual and skip a meal or two.



                  This is a leap of logic I just don't get. If Oscar was humiliated in the ring, what else is he going to say? His star had faded almost completely by then. People weren't going to pay anymore for his PPV's and be dissapointed. It was a perfect time to retire.

                  But.. if you know fighters and I'm sure you do, you know they love to claim they ain't get hurt. I get that in sparring all the time, hit em with a shot to the body, they smile shrug it off. Work that same spot, they smile, but its more strained... continue to work that spot...and.. the only time they stop pretending is when they kneel. But they pretend all the way up till then. Boxers LOVE to pretend, its part of the whole game. But all you need do is look at his face.
                  So, with all that being said you would agree with me then that PAC does not like to be hit to the body....just like you said when you see the second fight with JMM you can tell he is bothered by the body punches but he shrugs it off. I don't think JMM really noticed enough to capitilize on that. However, I do believe that is one thing that Cotto with try to work on from round 1. Bank on it!

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                  • #79
                    manny's fist and head are much bigger than cotto's...no doubt he'll win this

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                    • #80
                      Just for fun. Can someone put pac hair in Cotto's head

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