David Diaz will be standing high after Nov. 14th

[Bogler]

David Diaz ******. Any of the other names at lightweight would've been better. And yes, Campbell was a better name. That's not even debatable. A win over Morales when Diaz beat him means nothing, and he didn't even beat Morales IMO.

David Diaz was the worst possible titlist. Casamayor or Campbell would've been much better options.

know your timelines. those dudes were in a fight or just finished a fight when pac-diaz was made. there was no one aside from valero, who couldnt fight in the US.

[BOX-A-LOT]

know your timelines. Those dudes were in a fight or just finished a fight when pac-diaz was made. There was no one aside from valero, who couldnt fight in the us.

end of thread!!

[Chups]

David Diaz lasted more than Hatton. So what? Yo think David is better than Hatton?

No but he had the better strategy.

[Chups]

David Diaz ******. Any of the other names at lightweight would've been better. And yes, Campbell was a better name. That's not even debatable. A win over Morales when Diaz beat him means nothing, and he didn't even beat Morales IMO.

David Diaz was the worst possible titlist. Casamayor or Campbell would've been much better options.

Campbell who? The David Diaz fight was already signed when Campbell won against Juan Diaz. Casamayor is a grandad.

[Left Hook Tua]

Campbell who? The David Diaz fight was already signed when Campbell won against Juan Diaz. Casamayor is a grandad.

arum planned diaz-pacquiao BEFORE pac-jmm 2.

arum wanted to have pac fight for diaz's belt at 135 like morales did.

[dans]

know your timelines. those dudes were in a fight or just finished a fight when pac-diaz was made. there was no one aside from valero, who couldnt fight in the US.

What are you talking about? Casamayor and Campbell both fought in March of that year, Pac-Diaz was in June. Plenty of time. Pac fought Marquez in March so they all had fights in March of 2008. But instead of taking on Casamayor or Campbell, he takes on David Diaz, who should've lost to Morales, who at the time he faced Diaz was coming off of 4 losses in his last 5. Meanwhile, Marquez fights Casamayor to actually do something meaningful at 135.

Know your timelines before you tell me to know mine.

[dans]

arum planned diaz-pacquiao BEFORE pac-jmm 2.

arum wanted to have pac fight for diaz's belt at 135 like morales did.

Of course he planned it.

The point is that Pacquiao beat the weakest titlist at 135 and then moved up.

[dans]

Campbell who? The David Diaz fight was already signed when Campbell won against Juan Diaz. Casamayor is a grandad.

I guess Arum and Pac didn't want any part in a grandad or Campbell then.

Pac has done nothing at 135.

[Left Hook Tua]

Of course he planned it.

The point is that Pacquiao beat the weakest titlist at 135 and then moved up.

the moving up wasn't planned though.

blame oscar , floyd and hatton.

who knows what pacquiao would have done at 135 if it wasn't for them.

maybe casa. maybe not. maybe juan or nate. maybe not. who knows?



they planned for pac to move to 135. diaz was suppose to be just a tuneup. they didn't plan on moving up from 135 so quickly.

problem is floyd pulled out of the oscar fight. oscar needed a new opponent.

oscar asked ricky but ricky wanted a tuneup first. oscar ended up fighting pacquiao and planned on oscar-ricky afterwards. when pacquiao won , oscar-ricky fight got thrown out the window and pac ended up fighting ricky instead.

[dans]

the moving up wasn't planned though.

blame oscar , floyd and hatton.

who knows what pacquiao would have done at 135 if it wasn't for them.

maybe casa. maybe not. maybe juan or nate. maybe not. who knows?



they planned for pac to move to 135. diaz was suppose to be just a tuneup. they didn't plan on moving up from 135 so quickly.

problem is floyd pulled out of the oscar fight. oscar needed a new opponent.

oscar asked ricky but ricky wanted a tuneup first. oscar ended up fighting pacquiao and planned on oscar-ricky afterwards. when pacquiao won that through that out the window and pac ended up fighting ricky instead.

Fair enough. I never blamed Pac for taking the Hatton or DLH fights and I do believe he would've handled Casamayor and Campbell. My only point is both Floyd and Pacquiao when all is said and done, will claim dominance over X amount of divisions, when in actuality they have no business saying it.

Pac's win over Diaz = Floyd's win over Gatti

therefore

Pac's claim to lightweight supremecy = Floyd's claim to JWW supremecy

They both mean nothing, but get tallied as another division under their belts.