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  • #11
    Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
    I dont mind Haye's strategy if thats what he feels he needed to do, just dont award him the win for it.
    but he clearly won the fight?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
      The trainer of the former WBA heavyweight champion Nikolay Valuev, Alexander Zimin, thinks that the judges’ decision to give the victory to David Haye in his recent bout with the Russian boxer was unfair. According to Alexander, Haye was running around instead of boxing and didn’t deserve victory. [details]
      I wonder what this jack ass thinks about the Holyfield fight.... That was a strait robbery. Haye EASILY won the fight. The giant POS threw more punches but didn't land shyt. UGLY fight but more than fair out come. The one judge that had it a draw was CLEARLY the biased one. Haye has no room to brag but he did win the "fight". If anyone should complain its Holyfield who was robbed of the WBA belt.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
        I dont mind Haye's strategy if thats what he feels he needed to do, just dont award him the win for it.
        Yet you and most other americans thought Dirrell won in the Froch fight for basicly doing the same thing. For the record I had both Dirrell and Haye winning.. I don't judge fights with double-standards.

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        • #14
          Awww....not enough money for bribes this time, so the judges had to be more objective? For shame, for shame!

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
            No he is not right, Haye clearly landed the cleaner more effective blows throughout, that is not even up for dispute.

            Holyfield ran as much as Haye, if you actually watch that fight objectively you will see that it was an extremely boring fight just like the Haye fight, and that Holyfield was hardly throwing anything, just because you hear the biased American commentators making out Holy is/was putting on a clinic it dont make it so, Holyfield's tactics were not much different than Haye's, dont engage too much, landed your shots and use lateral movement.
            Haye did'nt clearly land **** until the 12th.

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            • #16
              i had haye winning and froch winning haye cause he was running and froch cos he was th agresser am a biased ***

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              • #17
                Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx View Post
                Haye did'nt clearly land **** until the 12th.
                Yes he did, no offence but your scoring of fight is terrible imo. You thought Froch won the Dirrell fight.

                Anyone who thinks Valuev won that fight should not be attempting to score a fight, much less give their opinion on it.

                1 Haye

                Haye landed a few jabs to the belly and a right hook behind the elbow, Valuev
                missed most of the jabs he attempted.

                2 Haye

                He landed the two best punches of the round, a right hand and
                a left hook right hand, Valuev landed to the chest with the jab but not enough imo.

                3 Haye
                Haye clearly landed the cleaner punches.

                4 Valuev

                Valuev was more active, he landed with left hook whilst haye was pulling
                out, he also landed short right, he used the jab consistently, hayes combos
                missed for the most part.

                5 Haye

                Close round where Haye landed jabs to the belly, Valuev also landed
                jabs to the chest but in the middle of round Haye scored a combo,
                Valuev landed a combo towards the end to even it up again, but Haye landed
                a clipping shot right at the end to take the round imo, close though.

                6 Valuev

                Valuev did better here, he landed the jab throughout the round to body and head, he
                also landed a nice left hook early, he landed some liver shots to. Haye landed one
                clean left hook but a lot of his raids were blocked.

                7 Valuev

                Hardest round to score so far, Haye landed some shots but was way too
                inactive, Valuev landed some jabs and countered haye's right had counter
                once in the round, he also landed jabs to the body and head, Haye tried a combo
                at the end but virtually missed all.

                8 Haye
                Very inactive round for both, that said Haye closed it out with the
                cleaner shots in the last min or so.

                9 Haye
                Haye landed 3 clean right hands here.

                10 Haye
                Haye landed the cleaner work for me, he landed an inside left hook, right
                hook to the body and another cuffing right hand toward the end, Watt & Dark scored
                it for valuev, but i dont know why.

                11 Valuev
                I thought Haye was too inactive here, meanwhile Valuev was not that effective
                either but he was consistent and i was looking for a sympathy round for him anyway.

                12 Haye
                He landed the cleaner shots and wobbled Valuev, Valuev caught him on
                the tail end of a left hook but that is the only punch i can remember him
                landing.

                The best!! Valuev could of got was a draw, that would of been kind to him. The least Haye could of got
                was a draw, he won the fight clearly on clean punches landed.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                  Yes he did, no offence but your scoring of fight is terrible imo. You thought Froch won the Dirrell fight.

                  Anyone who thinks Valuev won that fight should be attempting to score a fight, mess less give their opinion on it.

                  1 Haye

                  Haye landed a few jabs to the belly and a right hook behind the elbow, Valuev
                  missed most of the jabs he attempted.

                  2 Haye

                  He landed the two best punches of the round, a right hand and
                  a left hook right hand, Valuev landed to the chest with the jab but not enough imo.

                  3 Haye
                  Haye clearly landed the cleaner punches.

                  4 Valuev

                  Valuev was more active, he landed with left hook whilst haye was pulling
                  out, he also landed short right, he used the jab consistently, hayes combos
                  missed for the most part.

                  5 Haye

                  Close round where Haye landed jabs to the belly, Valuev also landed
                  jabs to the chest but in the middle of round Haye scored a combo,
                  Valuev landed a combo towards the end to even it up again, but Haye landed
                  a clipping shot right at the end to take the round imo, close though.

                  6 Valuev

                  Valuev did better here, he landed the jab throughout the round to body and head, he
                  also landed a nice left hook early, he landed some liver shots to. Haye landed one
                  clean left hook but a lot of his raids were blocked.

                  7 Valuev

                  Hardest round to score so far, Haye landed some shots but was way too
                  inactive, Valuev landed some jabs and countered haye's right had counter
                  once in the round, he also landed jabs to the body and head, Haye tried a combo
                  at the end but virtually missed all.

                  8 Haye
                  Very inactive round for both, that said Haye closed it out with the
                  cleaner shots in the last min or so.

                  9 Haye
                  Haye landed 3 clean right hands here.

                  10 Haye
                  Haye landed the cleaner work for me, he landed an inside left hook, right
                  hook to the body and another cuffing right hand toward the end, Watt & Dark scored
                  it for valuev, but i dont know why.

                  11 Valuev
                  I thought Haye was too inactive here, meanwhile Valuev was not that effective
                  either but he was consistent and i was looking for a sympathy round for him anyway.

                  12 Haye
                  He landed the cleaner shots and wobbled Valuev, Valuev caught him on
                  the tail end of a left hook but that is the only punch i can remember him
                  landing.

                  The best!! Valuev could of got was a draw, that would of been kind to him. The least Haye could of got
                  was a draw, he won the fight clearly on clean punches landed.
                  good assessment
                  how anyone can sympathise with valuev is beyond me too be honest

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                  • #19
                    Some folks need to re-watch that fight again in slo-mo.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Hyde View Post
                      Yet you and most other americans thought Dirrell won in the Froch fight for basicly doing the same thing. For the record I had both Dirrell and Haye winning.. I don't judge fights with double-standards.
                      Totally different. Dirrell landed clean visible punches while Froch did hardly anything. I wasnt really judging the Haye fight but it just seemed he wasnt doing much to me, I refuse to watch that snorefest again.

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