Mayweather, Cintron Blasted Over Pacquiao Steroid Claims

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  • nelsoncm
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    #51
    Originally posted by King22
    so what kind of supplements is Pacquiao taking then? Because more fighters need it if it got featherweights knockin out welterweights
    It's called guts steroids. Someone's been taking chicken steroids and he can't ko a guy 2 divisions lower.

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    • sycomantz
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      #52
      Originally posted by aether
      saying somebody cheats without concrete evidence is an insult to that person. and is done by those who have an agenda. so far, no evidence have surfaced. lets give manny the benefit of the doubt.

      if there is proof, then they can talk all they want. i will be pissed if it was proven to be true, but so far, none of their reasoning holds enough weight to prove manny cheats.

      do people think its a good thing that the best boxer today is being called a cheater by his peers? this **** is bad for the sport. and people who support it are fucking morons.
      why do you think rumors get started. and most rumors true out to be truth or have some truth.

      it was no different with shane mosley. people were doing the same thing, and people were defending him like you are pac. well guess what, with moer time, the truth began to surface.

      whether its true or not, we will find out. but where there is smoke, there is always fire.

      i think pac is taking some supplements that have roids, hghs or PED's of some sort.

      his ability to move up in weight, keep his gifts and gain at the same time, isnt humanly possible. dude is no freak of nature.

      time will tell

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      • el rey
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        #53
        yeah, cuz uh, manny pacquiao was at the top of his graduatinig General Santos high school class......effen ariza's ******, he worships the ground pacquiao walks on , but motherffer didnt even go to high school.

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        • aether
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          #54
          Originally posted by sycomantz
          why do you think rumors get started. and most rumors true out to be truth or have some truth.

          it was no different with shane mosley. people were doing the same thing, and people were defending him like you are pac. well guess what, with moer time, the truth began to surface.

          whether its true or not, we will find out. but where there is smoke, there is always fire.

          i think pac is taking some supplements that have roids, hghs or PED's of some sort.

          his ability to move up in weight, keep his gifts and gain at the same time, isnt humanly possible. dude is no freak of nature.

          time will tell
          this **** started when mayweather sr. went out and accused him of taking steroids. this was after he was embarassed with the hatton fight...

          and i don't see any ****ing smoke.

          there is no proof as of now. until then, you should just stfu.

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            #55
            Originally posted by sycomantz
            why do you think rumors get started. and most rumors true out to be truth or have some truth.

            it was no different with shane mosley. people were doing the same thing, and people were defending him like you are pac. well guess what, with moer time, the truth began to surface.

            whether its true or not, we will find out. but where there is smoke, there is always fire.

            i think pac is taking some supplements that have roids, hghs or PED's of some sort.

            his ability to move up in weight, keep his gifts and gain at the same time, isnt humanly possible. dude is no freak of nature.

            time will tell
            when he fought marquez he weighed 145 the night of the fight. night of the fight with de la hoya he weighed 148.5. you don't have to take roids to add 3.5 pounds in nine months.

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            • sycomantz
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              #56
              Originally posted by aether
              this **** started when mayweather sr. went out and accused him of taking steroids. this was after he was embarassed with the hatton fight...

              and i don't see any ****ing smoke.

              there is no proof as of now. until then, you should just stfu.
              Sr didnt "start" anything. he was just the first to say it to the media. but manny being on roids have been going around in the boxing world for a while.

              but if it makes you feel better to say floyd "started" go ahead. but you know its not true. he just had the ballz to say it to the media

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                #57
                Originally posted by peewee1460
                when he fought marquez he weighed 145 the night of the fight. night of the fight with de la hoya he weighed 148.5. you don't have to take roids to add 3.5 pounds in nine months.
                all roids dont make you gain a **** ton of weight...thats what you fail to realize about roids, hgh's and peds.

                unless someone is broke or cheap. people arent ****ing with ****ty roids from the 70's and 80s

                go to steriod.com. there are a **** ton of roids, hghs and peds for tons of purposes

                all roids dont jack you up...that are performance enhancers

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                • aether
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by sycomantz
                  Sr didnt "start" anything. he was just the first to say it to the media. but manny being on roids have been going around in the boxing world for a while.

                  but if it makes you feel better to say floyd "started" go ahead. but you know its not true. he just had the ballz to say it to the media
                  the only basis of pacquiao being on roids is because he was ripped and was defeating fighters above his natural weight class. there are a lot more probable cause for this: Pacquiao being a great fighter and trains hard every fight.

                  you are a moron for supporting sr. with these allegations. the dude was embarrassed by the pacquiao fight so he came out with these accusations to diminish him.

                  reasonable people without agenda would have waited for actual evidence before coming out with this. and those who support these allegations are not fans of the sport. they trying to discredit pac for the achievements he had.

                  the dude always had critics. they come up with different reasons why pacquiao isn't as good as a fighter as his fans say he is. but it came to a point where his greatness can no longer be denied. so they had to get creative, and now is riding on this steroids crap.

                  it would be a different story if there was evidence. but all they have is "He's so ripped! he must be on roids!"

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Bobby Shaw
                    When did Manny pass his high school?Just state the fact.

                    Was Manny less of a boxer because he didnt have a high school qualification?Did people stop listening to Manny back then because he didnt have a high school diploma?

                    In as much as a high school diploma give you basic knowledge and analytical skills,being in a sport for a long time gives you a lot of knowledge about the sport so to say Mayweather shouldnt be listened to is just plain ****** like you *******
                    what does manny not having a high school diploma have anything to do with this? it's between alex ariza and mayweather snr. if manny starts spouting accusations and claim that he believes someone is doping based on his "observation", the fact that he didn't finish high school will come into play. i don't give a rat's ass if manny is ariza's boss, if manny tries to debate issues pertaining to ariza's field of expertise, i am sure he will get shutdown. until then, the issue is between ariza and mayweather snr.

                    mayweather snr is a boxer and a trainer, he's an expert and had accomplishments on this field, i will give him that but is he an expert on nutrition? what about health? how about medicine? anatomy? do you think his boxing background is enough for him to actually develop supplements that would revolutionize human performance?

                    ariza is working with a team of university graduates that spent years studying the actual science behind it, not guess works. comparing the two is like comparing a medieval witchdoctor (someone who can sometimes cure people but can't fully explain the science behind it so if he sees modern methods, he will most likely cry witchcraft or will just be plain stubborn) to a modern day physician (someone who fully understands what's going on).

                    i don't care if anyone likes mayweather snr or not but for him to believe the man's words over people who are actually spending years in universities and doing research for breakthroughs and what not just shows how much society has deteriorated in terms of rational thinking.

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                    • sycomantz
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ummid
                      what does manny not having a high school diploma have anything to do with this? it's between alex ariza and mayweather snr. if manny starts spouting accusations and claim that he believes someone is doping based on his "observation", the fact that he didn't finish high school will come into play. i don't give a rat's ass if manny is ariza's boss, if manny tries to debate issues pertaining to ariza's field of expertise, i am sure he will get shutdown. until then, the issue is between ariza and mayweather snr.

                      mayweather snr is a boxer and a trainer, he's an expert and had accomplishments on this field, i will give him that but is he an expert on nutrition? what about health? how about medicine? anatomy? do you think his boxing background is enough for him to actually develop supplements that would revolutionize human performance?

                      ariza is working with a team of university graduates that spent years studying the actual science behind it, not guess works. comparing the two is like comparing a medieval witchdoctor (someone who can sometimes cure people but can't fully explain the science behind it so if he sees modern methods, he will most likely cry witchcraft or will just be plain stubborn) to a modern day physician (someone who fully understands what's going on).

                      i don't care if anyone likes mayweather snr or not but for him to believe the man's words over people who are actually spending years in universities and doing research for breakthroughs and what not just shows how much society has deteriorated in terms of rational thinking.
                      thats bs. thats like saying, only a person who wraps boxers hands, is the only one who can tell whether a boxers damage is due to tainted gloves or not

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