Ariza: "Floyd Sr. doesnt understand, he never finished High School"

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  • azumi
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    #131
    ariza shouldn't have talked down on sr. sr deserve to be respected even though he makes his mistakes..even though sr was indirectly bashing ariza's livelihood ariza could of said what he needed to say without talking down on him.
    pac needs to control his people

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    • joartcc5
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      #132
      Originally posted by azumi
      ariza shouldn't have talked down on sr. sr deserve to be respected even though he makes his mistakes..even though sr was indirectly bashing ariza's livelihood ariza could of said what he needed to say without talking down on him.
      pac needs to control his people
      Ariza did the correct thing.

      By putting an uneducated moron in his place.

      If gayweather Sr's uneducated brain didn't accuse Pac of using roids without presenting evidence... then Pac's credibility and in turn Ariza's also wouldn't be in question.

      About time Ariza put that drug addict in his place.

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      • joartcc5
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        #133
        Originally posted by El Cabron
        I definetely see that happening, especially given the success that Pacquiao's had with Ariza
        Guys like Ariza, Phil Landman... they will be making a lot of money in the near future.

        What they bring to boxers is a modern approach to getting in shape whilst packing in a little bit more.

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          #134
          Originally posted by sycomantz
          I'm quoting everything you said
          You're an idiot. First off, you're taking things too literally. We all know that Ariza is talking about 'legal' supplements when he said that statement. It only takes common sense and comprehension to actually understand that. You're the kind of idiot who takes things as they are. Well wake up, nothing is ever as they are.

          Oh and about Pac not getting a significant degree or whatsoever, you do not know **** because Pac is basically saying that education beats everything as to why he never wanted his kids to do boxing despite the fame and glory he's getting. He set an example for kids who choose to leave school and pursue what they want.

          He's giving a messege that however successful you are, you still need education and that education beats everything. Which, I believe, you wouldn't surely understand.

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          • ummid
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            #135
            Originally posted by GTR
            “We use supplements, not steroids. Someone who never finished high school, like Floyd Mayweather Sr., wouldn’t understand the difference and that’s why they make dumb comments.”

            MANILA, Philippines - No matter how much Miguel Cotto weighs, conditioning coach Alex Ariza said the other day Manny Pacquiao will be bigger and stronger than he ever was in his bid to become the first fighter in history to win seven world titles in seven different divisions.

            Pacquiao will shoot for the record when he faces Cotto who is defending his WBO welterweight crown at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas on Saturday night (Sunday morning, Manila).

            Ariza, 34, was hired by Pacquiao to join his team in preparing for the David Diaz fight for the WBC lightweight title last year. The Colombian did such a good job in firming up Pacquiao’s body that he was retained as the conditioning coach for the Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Cotto fights.
            “I like what Alex is doing,” Pacquiao once said. “When I was an amateur, the approach in training was similar. But as a pro, this was the first time I was exposed to scientific strength and conditioning.”

            Ariza’s HIIT (high-intensity intervolt training) system is the comprehensive approach that he introduced to Pacquiao. The system zeroes in on fast-twitch muscle fibers to enhance explosiveness and applies nutritional values to reach an ideal body composition. It is supported by a monitoring program where heartbeat, pulse, body fat and recovery rate, among others, are closely checked.

            “There’s no problem with Manny’s weight,” said Ariza in an overseas telephone interview. “Manny’s body is now used to our system. It’s muscle memory at work. He recovered very quickly after the Hatton fight and it wasn’t difficult getting back on track in training for Cotto. Manny will be bigger and stronger than ever when he fights Cotto.”

            Ariza said he works closely with two associates Teri Tom of UCLA and Andrea Macias of San Diego State in formulating Pacquiao’s conditioning program. “I run everything through Teri and Andrea so we cover all the aspects, including nutrition, isometric exercises and muscle build-up. Our program isn’t the work of any one person. It’s a team effort.”

            Ariza called it a “catch 22” situation in analyzing what a fighter goes through in either gaining or losing weight. “I can’t tell you what’s harder – to gain or lose weight,” he said. “When you go up or down, you lose something either way, sometimes in terms of speed or power. Your body has to make the adjustments right away and that’s where nutrition comes in. With Manny, it’s not a problem. We let him eat what he wants, even high calorie food sometimes because he needs about 5,000 calories a day anyway. He’s a workhorse. What he does in training for six weeks is probably what a normal fighter does in training for a year. That’s how hard he works.”

            Ariza said the HIIT system builds functional muscles and is complemented by a diet that Tom prepares. “We want Manny to be explosive and we want him to build up muscle in moving up to 145 pounds,” he said. “We use supplements, not steroids. Someone who never finished high school, like Floyd Mayweather Sr., wouldn’t understand the difference and that’s why they make dumb comments.”

            Ariza said Tom would’ve joined the training team in Baguio but she couldn’t make it. “We were communicating by computer because she monitors Manny’s body composition,” he said. “We just reinforced what she’s worked on with Manny.”

            Allaying fears that Cotto’s size may be too imposing, Ariza said De la Hoya and Hatton were also bigger than Pacquiao but they were stopped just the same. “There’s no concern that Manny might not be able to bring up his power to welterweight,” said Ariza. “Some people thought Manny wouldn’t be able to hurt Hatton because he’s so big. When Manny took him out in two rounds, they called him a shot fighter. Manny just has to prove it all over again against Cotto.”

            As for his ability to take the power of a bigger opponent, Ariza said Pacquiao feasted on sparring partners who outweighed him by 15 to 20 pounds. “It made no difference,” said Ariza. “Shawn Porter and Jose Luis Castillo are so much bigger than Manny but they couldn’t bring him down and Manny could take what they dished out. It’ll be the same with Cotto.”
            yes totally agree!

            comparing ariza's and mayweather snr's claims is like comparing a doctor to a patient who just recovered from a serious illness. just because you were able to go through something, it doesn't mean that you actually understand the science about it. when you get an std, you don't ask freakin pamela anderson for advice, you get professional help.

            i don't believe that ariza meant it as an insult, but as a statement of fact. i myself don't have any beef against uneducated people but if someone uneducated tries to speak more than they know and ends up causing trouble to another party because of it, then i'd be more than happy to expose that uneducated person. it's not the issue about finishing high school or not, it's more about being able to backup your claims by fully understanding the science, not just citing circumstancial evidences, guesses, flawed logics, gossips, and wikipedia info that takes 5 mins to get.

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            • Lineal Champ
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              #136
              Cmon, Floyd talks the most **** about other trainers and you guys get your panties all wet when somone talks back... There's alot of Mayweather Sr's on this thread

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              • MaD RoBoT
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                #137
                Originally posted by sycomantz
                im not backtracking one bit...im saying the same thing i said before.

                and at no point did i "compare" tests

                i gave an anology, showing how the testing process can be less than thorough, if testing isnt specific to what is being looked for

                test cant detect everything b/c there are tons of roids. hghs, and other performance enhancers, they never heard of and will never hear about

                hey smartass

                how bout telling us the list of supplements that can be considered as roids?

                thanks

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                • GTR
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by peewee1460
                  i don't get where all the steroid allegations are coming from.

                  the night of the second fight with marquez pac weighed 145.

                  the night of the de la hoya fight he was 148.5.

                  he went up 3.5 pounds in 9 months that's not that hard.
                  Floyd Sr is bitter about team pac ruining his reputation and making him look like a joke by knockin hatton da *** out after all that yappin and guarantees he did. This steroid accusations is his attempt of ruining pacs. good luck.

                  Other that amatuer boxers, i cant see any top level boxer hiring Sr to train them. Even his own son doesnt want him as the main trainer.
                  Last edited by GTR; 11-10-2009, 11:37 PM.

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                  • VoodooChild
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
                    exactly. pac didnt finish high school either
                    Umm yes he did

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                    • miron_lang
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
                      exactly. pac didnt finish high school either
                      Read the whole thread. Pac is in College now.

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