My Mayweather Thoughts

[Chuckguy]

I take that back
Floyd fought the best 135 pder at 144 but he failed to make the weight and fought him at 160 instead
he fought the best 140pder at 147
He fought the lineal champ with 9 losses why?
Cause Oscar Tito and Mosley had moved up and he didnt want to fight them nor did he want to test his skills against the viper or winky

[Syf]

Wow, you really are this simple eh?

What part of the contradiction do you not understand?


He goes around saying he won't fight this guy or that guy because he has losses,

but it never stopped him for signing for a Zab fight.

But, it stopped him from partaking in a fight with Margarito who he even said was, "easy money".

Stopped him from fighting Mosley as well.

You don't see the problem with that?

Of course not, its hard to see with Floyds anus taking up your eyespace.

Floyd called out shane...Bruseles was sposed to be a setup for a cotto fight. It could be argued both Shane and Cotto avoided Floyd back then and not the other way around.

Floyd didn't want to fight marg, ill give you that. But Marg wasn't a huge name back then EITHER.

for the rest..eh

Now Floyd moves up to WW. Spinks was recognized by everyone is the true WW champ and Zab beat him. Floyd & Zab started beefin. Everyone was talking about a Zab vs Floyd fight. Both guys were basicaly having a tuneup. Zab vs Baldy and Floyd fighting Mitchell because he's a slick Southpaw just like Zab and it helps him have 1 fight to get use to WW.

Both guys had already signed the fight. Everyone knew it but no one talks about that now. Zab lost to Baldy in a disputable fight but Floyd still fought him next because the fight was signed. Everyone clowned Floyd and said that he should fight the real WW champ. He did that and beat him.

Why repeat what has already been said???..

[Vasyl’s dad]

Floyd called out shane...Bruseles was sposed to be a setup for a cotto fight. It could be argued both Shane and Cotto avoided Floyd back then and not the other way around.

Floyd didn't want to fight marg, ill give you that. But Marg wasn't a huge name back then EITHER.

for the rest..eh



Why repeat what has already been said???..

Wow, you really are this simple eh?

What part of the contradiction do you not understand?


He goes around saying he won't fight this guy or that guy because he has losses,

but it never stopped him for signing for a Zab fight.

[Syf]

I think I've told you this once, don't rely on what you see on this forum to the rest of the world's opinion on Floyd. A big majority of people recognize Floyd's skills, he just has to put them up against the best fighters right now if he's still actively fighting. So what if people make excuses, that's been going on since the sport's genesis, but it doesn't say "Weight Drained" or "Old" next to the W on the fighter's resume. Take it with a grain of salt.

Good point, the only problem is, I'm not talking to comparatively sensible casual types.

I'm talking to these cats.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Good point, the only problem is, I'm not talking to comparatively sensible casual types.

I'm talking to these cats.

These cats say the same thing Rav does,

"fight the best".

Its a rather simple concept, and has been done forever in the sport of boxing.


So why is it a problem now for just one guy?

[Syf]

Wow, you really are this simple eh?

What part of the contradiction do you not understand?


He goes around saying he won't fight this guy or that guy because he has losses,

but it never stopped him for signing for a Zab fight.

You are holding on to what he said about Shane with all your might. Are you tense bro? Goosfraba. Deep breaths.

Fact remains he called out Shane, and ... nothing happened. We will read into that what we will, I'm sure. But, if you are going to use his words and posturing for draw advantage now, during this little break inbetween fights, to define his entire career, then who REALLY is the biased one?

Or.. the "simple" cat?

[Chuckguy]

These cats say the same thing Rav does,

"fight the best".

Its a rather simple concept, and has been done forever in the sport of boxing.


So why is it a problem now for just one guy?

Dude Tom relax dont give yourself a heart attack bro
he is not going to get it
he is a floyd stan simple logic doesnt apply to them
we all see your point

"Shane who? Shane with 5 losses"?
but he goes on to fight JMM a smaller slower fighter with 4 losses?
ahhaha
oh and the lineal champ Baldomir who was lineal with 9 losses
hahahah

[Syf]

Name them?
the supposed best that Floyd has fought?

He fought some of the best options at the time...

but...

Times change..and hindsight is a *****...





































that posts on a forum .

[Jiddu Dali]

Part 2


Now Im a Floyd fan but I admit that he mostly retired because there werent really any other fights except the Cotto & Margarito fight and Floyd wanted no part of them. That makes him a ***** in the eyes of everyone and its black & white but I dont look at it that way. I look at it as Floyd was only coming into the ring at 146 pounds at that time while the other WW's were coming in at 159-170 pounds and most were atleast 162. Why do people act like that doesnt matter? Again, I think Floyd beleived that he could beat them but he also felt that he could lose simply because he wasnt big or strong enough to compete and he didnt want to lose that way. Thats why he said that he will retire from boxing before he lets boxing retire him. Its not that he's just plain scared of those guys or scared to lose the 0 but he's not going to be dumb and take fights where he doesnt think he can really fight his normal way, e****ally if its not for super money fights like Oscar. I have no doubt that if Floyd was a natural WW or was coming into the ring at even 155 then he wouldve takened the fight but he wasnt.

Floyd shutout Baldy but you could clearly see that Baldy was walking through his shots and pushing him back whenever he wanted. You think Floyd didnt see & feel that and think about how a Margarito or Cotto fight wouldve went? He's not dumb. He wouldve been foolish to fight those guys and I think people should understand that. Again, people hype up these guys for taking tough fights but not a single one of them was dealing with a situation like Floyd. Pac fought a ton of guys but he was the bigger man in nearly every fight until recently and even then, he's still been basically the same size. Again, he was coming into the ring at 147 at SFW. Thats how he can move up in weight so easily because he was already a big strong guy. Even moving up he hasnt fought any guy who was bigger. Oscar was the only guy who was supposed to clearly be bigger but instead he was drained and came into the ring literaly just one pound bigger. Pac was clearly the stronger man against the zombie. Diaz was a LW but again, Pac was already coming in the ring at 147 at SFW. Hatton was basicaly the same size as Pac was 148 and Hatton was 149.

JMM was fighting guys all his size. The same with EM & MAB. Who has Cotto fought that he should fear? They are all his size and until recently, he was much bigger. The same for Margarito, Clottey, and so on. Why should they fear someone when they are all the same size? Floyd wasnt. They were all clearly bigger & stronger at that time. He took 2 years off and came back. He will never be as big as the others but now I think he feels like he's physicaly much more capable of fighting those guys than he was before they retired. The bad news is that Mosley is neariing 40 while Williams, Margarito, Clottey, and Cotto all have been dusted since then. That makes it look like Floyd waited for them to slip until he came back but really he was just waiting until his body matured more. Even so, he wouldve been a fool to fight a Mosley in his 1st fight back. You guys think he's ******. Why do that? Again, its not like he was a normal WW who retired and came back. He wasnt. He was coming in like a 140 pounder. Thats why you fight a guy like JMM in your 1st fight. Its the #2 guy in the world and physicaly you ease back into things.

Now after that fight people are still ripping him before he's made a next move. I keep telling everyone that he's not afraid of these guys. He's not even really afraid physcialy anymore. Still, he's not going to be dumb enough to fight one of them before the Pac fight is off the table. He has to wait and see. Thats why I dont get all the hate for the guy before the Pac-Cotto fight even happeneds. Atleast let him pick his next opponent. It will definatly be either Pac, Berto, Mosley, Clottey, or Cotto. If Cotto wins then I could see Floyd going straight to Cotto or Mosley but I could also see him saying that he needs 1 fight against a WW before he fights those guys. Still, if he went that route he would still fight a Berto or Clottey instead, not some little guy or some bum. In his very next fight without a doubt he would then fight Cotto or Mosley and probably the other guy right after that. Its that simple. Stop ripping the guy for not fighting big WW's in there 1st division while he looked like a little weak boy coming in the ring 15 pounds less and not having the benefit of being a lefty to have an advantatge. Stop ripping him for what he's doing now when he hasnt even made a move yet. He's going to fight these guys but be fair and stop thinking he has to fight Mosley before the Pac fight is off the table. He would be a fool to do that

good stuff...

I agree he retired to get stronger, rest his hands and be able to physically compete with the bigger fighters @ WW. People forget that none of these WW's moved up as low as Mayweather has. Cotto came from 140, all these other guys are bigger. BUT NOW he is stronger, he had to adjust his body to the weight class he intends on fighting at. Its all strategy, and he keeps the haters speaking his name.

[Syf]

Dude Tom relax dont give yourself a heart attack bro
he is not going to get it
he is a floyd stan simple logic doesnt apply to them
we all see your point

"Shane who? Shane with 5 losses"?
but he goes on to fight JMM a smaller slower fighter with 4 losses?
ahhaha
oh and the lineal champ Baldomir who was lineal with 9 losses
hahahah

I am far from a Floyd stan..

I am a boxing fan.

One would wonder what you are.