If hayes champ then whats this guy????

**BEEHOP** · 11-08-2009, 06:51 AM

They took it away from him because of his performance against Wlad.

And they didn't give it to Wlad, because he's too greedy for belts.

**liam_48@msn.com** · 11-08-2009, 06:53 AM

thats why we have a term called "paper champion" David haye is a paper champion, until he beats both klits.

**True Guru** · 11-08-2009, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by BEEHOP

They took it away from him because of his performance against Wlad.

And they didn't give it to Wlad, because he's too greedy for belts.

His fight with Wlad was on June 20th 09....Valuev won the fake title in 08.
Even if Chagaev was stripped of his title after the Wlad fight that would still mean the title Valuev won isnt the legitimate belt.

**Adamantium** · 11-08-2009, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by elephant man

Chagaev beat Valuev for the Legitimate WBA title and never lost it,He got injured but was NEVER stripped of it,Valuev never won back the legitimate WBA title,He fought Ruiz for some fake made up one which haye now has so whats going on?

Haye has now more bargaining power, if he agrees to fight either one of the bros. As for the WBA belts, the WBA just makes stuff up as they go along.

**Rooney_MUFC** · 11-08-2009, 07:13 AM

A Fat ****er, With No Boxing Skills.. Only good points being height..

Possibly the worst Heavyweigh Champion Of All Time..Frank Bruno Would Piss Allover Him

Valuev > Both Klitschko's (At The Same Time)

**Spray_resistant** · 11-08-2009, 07:19 AM

Wlad is the real HW champion at this time anyone else with a belt is basically a contender with a contenders belt......I hope the Wlad/Haye fight happens though and soon, lets just hope they both win their fights until then.

**True Guru** · 11-08-2009, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Rooney_MUFC

A Fat ****er, With No Boxing Skills.. Only good points being height..

Possibly the worst Heavyweigh Champion Of All Time..Frank Bruno Would Piss Allover Him

Valuev > Both Klitschko's (At The Same Time)

I was actually talking about Chagaev

You know the guy with the real WBA title

**BEEHOP** · 11-08-2009, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by elephant man

His fight with Wlad was on June 20th 09....Valuev won the fake title in 08.
Even if Chagaev was stripped of his title after the Wlad fight that would still mean the title Valuev won isnt the legitimate belt.

Valuev is the WBA "Super Duper" Champion.

**Spray_resistant** · 11-08-2009, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by BEEHOP

Valuev is the WBA "Super Duper" Champion.

Why did you take #1 ATG Sven out of your avi.....are you considering that Zsolt Erdie maybe even greater than him?

If hayes champ then whats this guy????