Proof Haye Ducked Vitali

[squealpiggy]

Haye said he pulled out of Vitali fight because he wanted to control his own destiny and didnt want others having clauses in his future fights right?

As with the K2 deal the contract Haye has signed with Sauerland Events gives the German promotional group a three fight option over the British challenger should he win.
"I dont like to call it options.I get on well with David and I would like to term it more a partner agreement" Said Sauerland

Boxing Monthly Magazine


The contract is EXACTLY the same one that Vitali offered Haye,Haye didnt want K2 being involved in his future fights but allows Sauerland>
He obviously wanted nothing to do with Vitali and cherrypicked the much much easier Valuev.
Haye will Not fight a KLitschko anytime soon because Sauerland will not let it happen.

I'm not sure how anyone could say that Haye ducked Vitali without acknowledging that Vitali retired five times rather than face the mighty Hasim Rahman.

[True Guru]

It was about money, not so much the contract. He always agreed to the contract when signing to fight Wlad. Haye made a **** load tonight compared to what he would have got vs Vitali, besides now he can demand more money.

How did he make more money tonight than against Vitali when Vitali/Haye would have been on HBO?
Tonights attendance was 8,000,Vitali vs Johnson has already sold out 17,000...Vitali fight would have been much bigger attendance and been on HBO

[Chunk..]

I have Valuev up by 2 Rds,Even Brit Nuthugger Jim Watt had Valuev winning 7-5

Jim Watt based it on Valuev's aggression and Haye not being busy enough. The problem with that is, Valuev missed. An awful lot.

It doesn't matter how much you throw, it's about how much you LAND!

Haye threw less but landed more. The right man one that fight, clearly.

It was a boring ass fight though.

[True Guru]

I'm not sure how anyone could say that Haye ducked Vitali without acknowledging that Vitali retired five times rather than face the mighty Hasim Rahman.

Yeah he also retired from the sport for four years...He was obviously lying about being injured eh?

[True Guru]

Jim Watt based it on Valuev's aggression and Haye not being busy enough. The problem with that is, Valuev missed. An awful lot.

It doesn't matter how much you throw, it's about how much you LAND!

Haye threw less but landed more. The right man one that fight, clearly.

It was a boring ass fight though.

Have you got the punchstats?

[PensionKiller]

I beleive that Haye really wnats to fight both Klit's. He called them out face to face and had a little push fight with Vitali. That's man enough for me.

He may have faked the injuries but he would not have made any money because of the British Channel sentanta going bust.

He is not ready to beat either yet, and I would like to see him face people like Tua, Potvekin, Arreola and Chambers. If he wins by KO or UD's them badly then I'd say he will be ready as he can be for them.

[PensionKiller]

How did he make more money tonight than against Vitali when Vitali/Haye would have been on HBO?
Tonights attendance was 8,000,Vitali vs Johnson has already sold out 17,000...Vitali fight would have been much bigger attendance and been on HBO

I believe the contract he had meant he would only gain money through Sentanta.

Plus he would have to fight 2 more times with the Klit's.

Do you think that he won't fight them at all? I am pretty sure that with the WBA belt he will go for one of them withoin the next 4 fights.

[squealpiggy]

Yeah he also retired from the sport for four years...He was obviously lying about being injured eh?

No, he postponed the fight three times in that period. It seemed to me it was a ploy to retain the title without defending it. Vitali is a throwback fighter in the mould of all time greats like Jess Willard who held the title for four years and successfully defended it once before losing it to Jack Dempsey.

That's why it grieved me to see him sit on that bull**** "emeritus" title until somebody was sufficiently flawed for him to feel like having another shot at it.

[Hitman932]

He is not ready to beat either yet, and I would like to see him face people like Tua, Potvekin, Arreola and Chambers. If he wins by KO or UD's them badly then I'd say he will be ready as he can be for them.

In the meantime he will keep running his mouth knowing full well that his new partnership and his mandatory will prevent him from having to back up his tiresome boasts.

[Chunk..]

Have you got the punchstats?

It's called eyes. Valuev looked like an amateur.