wlad fought lewis on oceans eleven? and why r u comparing grant to wlad?
Better than V.Klitschko vs Lewis?!
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The only reason Wlad is top 15 is cos the heavyweight division is devoid of talent. Wlad`s skin has kept him in the top ten. Talent wise sure he`s good but when hit he hasn`t the heart to take it! HEART you say? Yes, Tua took Lewis`, Ibeuchei, and Moorer`s blows, Evander took everybodys shots in his prime, Wlad can not! Why? Vitali can, why not Wlad? Because he doesn`t like pain. He hasn`t the guts to take it. Corey Sanders?? Ross Pubeity?? Lamon Buster??? He didn`t lose to world class guys, he lost to crap! What happens with a Mike Tyson or lennox Lewis? Early KO, thats what happens. Wlad is not a top 15 heavy cos he hasn`t the heart. On effort alone many heavies deserve the respect more so than Wladimir. Wlad is a gutless, chinless coward and i am counting the days til he is vanquished and other heavies get what they deserve. Attention, money and a chance!Originally posted by NeuraxisApparently you also missed me saying that Wlad would lose to Lewis. The bottom line here is that Wlad is still a top 15 heavyweight, probably even top 10. Grant on the other hand is no where even close to being top 15, and he has been inactive for over a year now.
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I never said Wlad would beat Lewis, so I don't know what you are getting at. We are talking about Grant vs. Wlad here. Since Sanders Wlad's worst opponent has to Moli and he is still better than anyone who Grant has beaten since Lewis.Originally posted by KimmyThe only reason Wlad is top 15 is cos the heavyweight division is devoid of talent. Wlad`s skin has kept him in the top ten. Talent wise sure he`s good but when hit he hasn`t the heart to take it! HEART you say? Yes, Tua took Lewis`, Ibeuchei, and Moorer`s blows, Evander took everybodys shots in his prime, Wlad can not! Why? Vitali can, why not Wlad? Because he doesn`t like pain. He hasn`t the guts to take it. Corey Sanders?? Ross Pubeity?? Lamon Buster??? He didn`t lose to world class guys, he lost to crap! What happens with a Mike Tyson or lennox Lewis? Early KO, thats what happens. Wlad is not a top 15 heavy cos he hasn`t the heart. On effort alone many heavies deserve the respect more so than Wladimir. Wlad is a gutless, chinless coward and i am counting the days til he is vanquished and other heavies get what they deserve. Attention, money and a chance!
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You were the one who quoted me when I was discussing Grant vs. Wlad with explosivo. Maybe if you don't give a ****, you probably shouldn't have quoted me.Originally posted by KimmyWho gives a **** about Grant, you do, i don`t. Wlad is the issue here, not Grant. Wlad has a great chin, but the heart seems hit when the chin is exposed!Comment
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Ask explosivo. I don't know why he brought up Grant to begin with.Originally posted by KimmyMy point was why you talking Wlad Vs Grant when Grant in particulary retired and Wlad is heading that direction. Vitali is heavyweight champion. Vitali is Tom cruise and Wlad is Dustin Hoffman in boxing!!Comment
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Grant at his very best was a mediocre fighter. Decent talent, average skill, decent punch, good heart, HORRIBLE chin. His career should have ended with the Golota fight but for whatever reason Golota spazzed out and Grant won a fight he was losing. If Golota had his head on straight, Grant would have never made it to Lewis.
Comparing him to Wlad is an insult. Wlad is more athletic, has better skills, hits much harder, and even his chin was better. Just look at the facts. Wlad was knocked out by Sanders who is a lightning fast powerhouse. If Sanders landed those same punches on Tyson it would have achieved the same result.
Grant on the other hand was nearly knocked out by Golota who was never a huge puncher, and stopped by McCline in less than a round. Grant had one of the worst chins the HW division has seen in the last 10 years.Last edited by Kid Achilles; 03-31-2005, 09:47 PM.Comment
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