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Originally posted by SilverSamurai View PostA lot of boxers try to fight at as low a weight class as possible. Both Eubank and Calzaghe were natural cws and Hopkins was a natural lhw. I personally would be in favor of bringing back the same day weigh in rule, but that will never happen now.
We are going to have to disagree on the Hopkins/Calzaghe outcome, which was a messy fight. No way should Hopkins of been allowed to get away with so much clinching and headbutting.
As for a Ottke/Calzaghe match, I read (on this site) that Ottke wasn't interested.
yes calzaghe didn't want to fight ottke in germany cause germany focuses on clean accurate punching when they judge and punishes sloppy inaccurate boxing. ottke didn't want to fight calzaghe in the uk cause he would get stopped manfredo style.
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Originally posted by Sir Tom Jones View Postseen as the best super middle weight, Enough said,
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Originally posted by daggum View Postno way calzaghe should have been allowed to get away with so much clinching, lowblows, and rabbit punching. the raping was fine.
yes calzaghe didn't want to fight ottke in germany cause germany focuses on clean accurate punching when they judge and punishes sloppy inaccurate boxing. ottke didn't want to fight calzaghe in the uk cause he would get stopped manfredo style.
The raping was fine?
lmao
From what I remember, didn't Ottke get a lot of dubious decisions in Germany? The only fight of his I saw was the Reid fight and that at best was a joke. Reid got a warning for punching Ottke and constant warnings for headbutts, when it was Ottke that was causing them by charging in headfirst to clinch.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postthe division is only 20 years old and how many people actually stayed in the division for their entire careers? only ottke and calzaghe lol so take your pick. i pick ottke cause of his smooth boxing style, accurate punching and great defense. you pick calzaghe cause he does the opposite.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postyes calzaghe didn't want to fight ottke in germany cause germany focuses on clean accurate punching when they judge and punishes sloppy inaccurate boxing.
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Originally posted by Benjamin_arris View PostCalzaghes resume is CLEARLY better and he beat them both. Choose between Hopkins or Jones you silly ****sucker.....you aint too old for forum name callin'?!?
.....well I am!!......Bless!!
and for the record......you comin' across as a ******* the way you kick the thread off.....so expect dudes to kick you back with ******* type responses.....ya dig!!.....be easy my dude!!
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Originally posted by Shattered Jaw View PostJones has the far superior record (Toney, Griffin, Hill, McCallum, (Hopkins himself), Ruiz). He also moved up (and through) twice as many weights as Hopkins.
to say jones is better because he moved up more divisions is also rubbish...hopkins beat every single middleweight contender/champion of his era and then when you say the bigger fighters he fought he lost to...its upto you whether you think taylor deserved both decisions...but calzaghe DID NOT deserve the decision at all...what about tarver pavlik they werent smaller
hopkins cleaned and dominated the division for over 10years...jones nitpicked and carefully moved through divisions never fighting the best
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