Who has a greater/better legacy? hatton or judah?

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  • jrosales13
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    #11
    Originally posted by Syf
    Baldomir gets a lot of hate I feel, because the elite Mayweather fought him and made him look foolish when people wanted PBF to fight someone else. So, by association.. they talked all this smack about Baldomir and how he was a bad choice and even a bad name for ANYONE to have on their resume. But remember...he BEAT Judah.. and... Went 11 rounds with Clottey (who people list pretty highly in their ww rankings) before winning by DQ.

    Yeah I forgot about Spinks, though...good catch
    Baldomir was getting beat down by Clottey before a home cooking ref saved Baldomir. Lets not forget that Baldomir got a gift draw against Jose Luis Cruz. Forrest(RIP) shut him out as well. And, 2yrs after Floyd beat Baldomir "the elite" Jackson Bonsu beat him. Lets not forget people had to jump in the ring to save Baldomir from the ass whoopin he was getting from Juan Lazcano who was a LW in sparring. And, plus add the other 9 losses Baldomir has against bums... So I don't get how he is a good name?

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    • Dionyseus
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      #12
      Hatton's win over an out-of-prime Kostya Tszyu is better than anything Judah has done, not to mention Judah got ktfo'd in two rounds by Tszyu.

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      • strugler
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dionyseus
        Hatton's win over an out-of-prime Kostya Tszyu is better than anything Judah has done, not to mention Judah got ktfo'd in two rounds by Tszyu.
        so khan is greater than judah as well?..................using your logic

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          #14
          Originally posted by strugler
          so khan is greater than judah as well?..................using your logic
          I understand his logic is not that smart. But, your respond was not smart either.

          The point that he is trying to make is that Hatton beat Kostya while Kostya Ko'd Judah.

          Did Khan ever beat Judah? No so your respond failed. His logic is idiotic cuz the Kostya version that Zab fought was better than the old version that Hatton beat. Plus Zab has a better resume and accomplished more at WW than what Hatton did at WW.

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          • strugler
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            #15
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            I understand his logic is not that smart. But, your respond was not smart either.

            The point that he is trying to make is that Hatton beat Kostya while Kostya Ko'd Judah.

            Did Khan ever beat Judah? No so your respond failed. His logic is idiotic cuz the Kostya version that Zab fought was better than the old version that Hatton beat. Plus Zab has a better resume and accomplished more at WW than what Hatton did at WW.
            nope.....he said that Hatton's winning over a past prime kotsya .............was way better than anyone who judah had defeated.....................that was the point

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            • Syf
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              #16
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Baldomir was getting beat down by Clottey before a home cooking ref saved Baldomir. Lets not forget that Baldomir got a gift draw against Jose Luis Cruz. Forrest(RIP) shut him out as well. And, 2yrs after Floyd beat Baldomir "the elite" Jackson Bonsu beat him. Lets not forget people had to jump in the ring to save Baldomir from the ass whoopin he was getting from Juan Lazcano who was a LW in sparring. And, plus add the other 9 losses Baldomir has against bums... So I don't get how he is a good name?
              Well..

              Losing to forest isn't anything to be ashamed of. And Lazcano, also went the distance with Ricky, and made Ricky look less than stellar. By the time he lost to Bonsu dude was fully shot. The draw an argument could be made wasn't right. And yes, he was losing to Clottey, but surviving. A true tomato can, as you seem to be implying he is, would have been stopped. Same goes for his fight with Mayweather, which went the distance. Mayweather has shown in the past he can knock out tomato cans with ease. So Baldomir has a lil something. Is he consistent? NO, but its also interesting to note that he has only been KO'd once.. and only not gone the distance 3 times, out of over 50 fights.

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              • JM1
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                #17
                hatton's career > zab's

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                  #18
                  LOL at the thought of Judah having a legacy.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Syf
                    Well..

                    Losing to forest isn't anything to be ashamed of. And Lazcano, also went the distance with Ricky, and made Ricky look less than stellar. By the time he lost to Bonsu dude was fully shot. The draw an argument could be made wasn't right. And yes, he was losing to Clottey, but surviving. A true tomato can, as you seem to be implying he is, would have been stopped. Same goes for his fight with Mayweather, which went the distance. Mayweather has shown in the past he can knock out tomato cans with ease. So Baldomir has a lil something. Is he consistent? NO, but its also interesting to note that he has only been KO'd once.. and only not gone the distance 3 times, out of over 50 fights.
                    So some how he was a good fighter against Floyd and Zab and then 3 fighters he is completely shot. Without having taking a severe beating. I have never heard of anything like that before.

                    Lazcano was a LW. This man was a true WW. Hatton won 10rds against Lazcano.

                    Clottey doesen't KO anybody. He chouldn't KO a shot Corrales(RIP). Who out of his weightclass. When was the last time Clottey KO'd somebody?

                    All Baldomir has is a chin. I give him that. He has toughness and a granite chin. But, he has nothing after that. He has no power none. He has no speed none. He has no footwork none at all. Please tell what makes him a good name. IMO the only reason you say he is a good name is cuz he lossed to Floyd. If Floyd never had fought Baldomir I honestly believe you would not of been here trying to defend. But, only cuz Floyd has him on his resume makes him a good name. When actually he was just a Zab Judah creation.

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                    • MR. V
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                      #20
                      hatton, no question.

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