Vitali Klitschko Thinks The Judges Will Rob David Haye

[vercingetorix3]

The only reason why Haye is gunning for the KO is because he knows that if it goes to the scorecards, he will be robbed, Holyfield-style.

[βetamax]

No, Tunney will never become a Vitali hater. It's equally unlikely as mt102879 becoming B-Hop hater.

I was just pointing out that Vitali was making the point that because Valuev's PROMOTERS, Haye is unlikely to win a decision, although the way it is worded, some will interpret it as Vitali saying Haye will get robbed because it's in Germany.

I thought Larry Donald clearly should have won a decision over Valuev a couple of years ago, but I didn't see either of Valuev's Ruiz fights as a robberies.

There are bad decisions everywhere though. Germany is no worse or no better than anywhere else for judging, but I don't trust decisions where Don King is involved.

It takes two to tango. If promoters can have influence over the decision that tells you something about corruption in the local scene. I agree that bad decisions can and do happen everywhere but it seems to be more blatant in Germany.

I see your still exclusively scapegoating King. Don't get me wrong, King is a terrible human being, but your refusing to acknowledge the larger influence Sauerland might have because you know he promotes fighters you support like Abraham.

[The Hammer]

I see your still exclusively scapegoating King. Don't get me wrong, King is a terrible human being, but your refusing to acknowledge the larger influence Sauerland might have because you know he promotes fighters you support like Abraham.

Well, I don't like Universum's Kohl because of the way he's treated some of his fighters, even though he promotes one of my favorites (Boytsov). But I do like Sauerland as a promoter because he's good to work for and does a great job of developing boxers.

Kohl has signed a greater number of talented boxers during the past decade, but often fails to keep them active against decent opponents. Some of Sauerland's fighters like Pianeta are not world-beaters, but he takes them along step-by-step, not ruining them by over-protecting, but matching them wisely so they have the opportunity to improve and maximize whatever talent they have.

[CiganoBoxer]

Germany is the **** hole for bad decisions...international fights shouldnt be allowed to be held there ...haye Needs a KO or lots of knockdowns !

[Aperion]

I love boxing, but this is exactly why its a ******, ****** sport that marginalizes itself as much as possible. You know when a fighter can't win a decision. That is insane!! Too bad, this could be a fight, but with the Fedor fight happening, and in my hometown, I totally forgot about this boxing "contest"

[IZONFIST]

he already robbed larry donald, ruiz twice and holyfield i just can't believe this kind of boxer become two time champion hooooooooo jeez

[Fidday]

It takes two to tango. If promoters can have influence over the decision that tells you something about corruption in the local scene. I agree that bad decisions can and do happen everywhere but it seems to be more blatant in Germany.

I see your still exclusively scapegoating King. Don't get me wrong, King is a terrible human being, but your refusing to acknowledge the larger influence Sauerland might have because you know he promotes fighters you support like Abraham.

Abraham doesn't need gift decisions, he will knock all the Americans out

[IZONFIST]

haye should knock him out to win

[βetamax]

Well, I don't like Universum's Kohl because of the way he's treated some of his fighters, even though he promotes one of my favorites (Boytsov). But I do like Sauerland as a promoter because he's good to work for and does a great job of developing boxers.

Kohl has signed a greater number of talented boxers during the past decade, but often fails to keep them active against decent opponents. Some of Sauerland's fighters like Pianeta are not world-beaters, but he takes them along step-by-step, not ruining them by over-protecting, but matching them wisely so they have the opportunity to improve and maximize whatever talent they have.

Look, that all may be true but it's kind of irrelevant. I'll repost what Klitschko said:

Maybe Haye will look a little better than Valuev, but the judges will unwillingly hand the victory to Valuev by split decision. They’ll have to do it because the fight takes place in Germany, because Valuev is promoted by Wilfried Sauerland and Don King.

This should clearly read as:
Germany + Sauerland & King = Potential bad decision

Yet you somehow took Germany and Sauerland out of the equation and only left King. It's one thing to disagree with Vitali, it's other to completely twist his words into something that's easier for you to swallow being that he's your first, second, or co-favorite fighter.

This is going to sound odd coming from me but it's really a shame you have issues that hinder your thought process because your knowledgeable enough to be one of the better posters but instead time and after time you end up posting stuff like this.

[edgarg]

Bad decisions.

I don't think that there has been in Germany, a phony result as bad as Courtney Burton's over Emmanuel Augustus, or Paulie Ayala's over Johnny Tapia.