Wladimir Klitschko is an ATG Heavyweight!

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  • Pullcounter
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    #21
    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
    Nothing like the amazing divisions of Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Jack Johnson and Rocky Marciano, for sure.
    sadly its worse than those divisions

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      • IZONFIST
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        #22
        he could become like in top 20 best heavyweight
        Last edited by IZONFIST; 11-06-2009, 01:27 PM.

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          • Bushidō
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            #23
            He would need some better opposition but sadly there isn't any
            Last edited by Bushidō; 11-05-2009, 11:19 PM.

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              • Scott9945
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                #24
                Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                Nothing like the amazing divisions of Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Jack Johnson and Rocky Marciano, for sure.

                Fight fans often have very convenient memories. If Wladimir fought some of the clowns that Holmes defended against it would be such an ugly mismatch they wouldn't even televise it.

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                  • STEELHEAD
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                    #25
                    Originally posted by Scott9945
                    Fight fans often have very convenient memories. If Wladimir fought some of the clowns that Holmes defended against it would be such an ugly mismatch they wouldn't even televise it.
                    nothing gets worse then ibragimov/wlad.
                    ibragimov was laughed out of boxing!

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                      • Scott9945
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by `STEELHEAD
                        nothing gets worse then ibragimov/wlad.
                        ibragimov was laughed out of boxing!
                        Ali-Jimmy Young was worse. Watch it if you don't believe me. I've seen plenty of worse heavyweight fights.

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                            #27
                            It's all about the competition.

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                              • The Underboss
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                                #28
                                he's considered an ATG of course, thanks to the lack of good fighters in the HW division.

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                                  • Johnny Rebel
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                                    #29
                                    Originally posted by Scott9945
                                    Fight fans often have very convenient memories. If Wladimir fought some of the clowns that Holmes defended against it would be such an ugly mismatch they wouldn't even televise it.
                                    That's true!

                                    There's only maybe 5 HW's since 1980 that would have a decent chance against Wlad or Vitali right now. Holmes, Tyson, Holy, Bowe and Lewis. It's rare for the HW division to have more than a couple of great fighters during any era. Without the KlitschkO brothers I've no doubt that some of these so called "bums" that the brothers have been dominating would be considered good or even great fighters...

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                                      • hardmanbrit
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                                        #30
                                        Some people say that Wladimir Klitschko cannot be labelled an all time great as he has experienced defeat.

                                        How many Heavyweight World Champions have not experienced defeat?

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