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  • bigrealmike
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    #21
    I don't understand how people go about measuring when a boxer's "peak" is. In the case of Bowe, one has to define it as being over a very short period if one wants to believe that he was a great heavyweight.
    The same argument is always made on Mike Tyson's behalf .

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    • Kimmy
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      #22
      Originally posted by bigrealmike
      I don't understand how people go about measuring when a boxer's "peak" is. In the case of Bowe, one has to define it as being over a very short period if one wants to believe that he was a great heavyweight.
      The same argument is always made on Mike Tyson's behalf .
      Bowe`s peak was probably between 1991 and 1992. After the first Holyfield fight he was never as good. He had a few decent performances here and there ( he destoryed Dokes better than anyone and he was particularly good in dismantling Jorge Gonzales ) but he never repeated the form of that first Holyfield fight.

      Tyson`s peak ended the day he left Kevin Ronney. He was never the same again, not even close. All the teachings of Rooney and work put into Tyson by both Cus D`Amrto and Rooney were flushed down the ****ter! Tyson just got worse and worse and worse etc..

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      • bigrealmike
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        #23
        Defining a "peak" over a short period allows someone to throw out any
        evidence that doesn't fit in with their prejudices. Thus, Tyson wasn't
        found out by Douglas and Holyfield , he just "peaked" early. Bowe
        wasn't humiliated by a good-to-medium heavyweight (Golota), he just
        "peaked" at 25 rather than 30 like most heavyweights.

        So I don't really like this argument. Using it, I could argue that
        W. Klitschko was a great fighter in the late 90s, because he looked great
        early on, but he unfortunately "peaked" at the point before he fought
        anyone who was any good.
        Last edited by bigrealmike; 03-30-2005, 05:17 PM.

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        • snap the jab
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          #24
          Originally posted by b-hop21183
          Anyone see him on Best Damn Sports Show calling Toney a bum and saying he could take both klitsckos at the same time
          lol both klitschkos at the same time, that's funny

          i like clever trash talking like that - it's just when it gets to James Toney levels when it starts to get annoying

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          • Kimmy
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            #25
            Originally posted by bigrealmike
            W. Klitschko was a great fighter in the late 90s, because he looked great
            early on, but he unfortunately "peaked" at the point before he fought
            anyone who was any good.
            Wlad isn`t in this catagory. See, Wlad isn`t a shot fighter. He is still very much in his prime he just hasn`t, and never has had, a decent chin! He only got found out when a rampant Corrie Sanders jumped on his ass and KO`ed him. I believe if Derrick Jefferson had tired the same thing he might have achieved a simular result.
            A fighter`s peak isn`t just determined by their physical abilities. Its also their mental attitude and focus, the total package. Bowe in 1992 was at his very best, as was Tyson in 1988. After these times Bowe and Tyson were still world class fighters, they just weren`t gonna be as good as they were in 1992 and 1988 respectively.

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            • riz
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              #26
              Originally posted by snap the jab
              lol both klitschkos at the same time, that's funny

              i like clever trash talking like that - it's just when it gets to James Toney levels when it starts to get annoying
              the problem with james is he talks a lot, n i really dont understand y he getting the shot against ruiz
              tru theres not much otheres
              but gyz like baarret deserve it more
              toney fought twice at HW
              once against a 38 year old holyfield (roughly)
              and against tyrell booker who ive never heard of
              this fight against ruiz will determine whether he can stay in the HW division as a serious contednro

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              • Tha Greatest
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                #27
                There's a difference between George Foreman and Rid**** Bowe

                Foreman would always give the beatings

                Rid**** Bowe always took them.....


                Foreman was perfectly fine when he came back and he still is
                Rid**** Bowe reminds me of Meldrick Taylor...

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                • abdiel2k3
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                  #28
                  ya i saw him
                  that was plain ******
                  he thinks he can take on both klitschkos in the same nite
                  i doubt he could even beat wlad
                  toney would even work his old fat ass over

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                  • Kimmy
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ThaGreatest
                    Rid**** Bowe reminds me of Meldrick Taylor...
                    Yeah....he is looking that way isn`t he. Its a shame, i think the Holyfield fights coupled with the Golota beatings seriously damaged his brain. His reflexes must be effected too, only when he goes up in competition will we know to what extent. He is still able to blow away a few undersized bums but it will catch up with him!

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                    • Enayze
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by dansweeney
                      at this point ya, a prime bowe would have destroyed vitali inside of 3 rounds

                      Why do idiots keep claiming that these and those fighters would destroy Vitali in 3 or 4, when Vitali has never even touched canvas, let along been knocked out. A prime Bowe would fall to a prime Vitali, no way he would handle his style, and the punches he would land wouldn't drop Vitali. If Lewis couldn't Bowe sure as hell wouldnt.

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