Pros and Cons of the Williams-Martinez fight

[Bhopreign]

Williams would destroy both Sturm and Sylvester, no question. I'm just saying, those guys have won titles at 160... they are proven. Outside of Pavlik (injured) and Abraham (can't make the weight), there is no one else who has proven themselves to be anything at the weight. Maybe Khoren Gevor? I don't know... I just think he should have traded dates with Mosley or something and gotten down to 154 for this fight.



I saw it when it was on TV... it was on Versus. I know WBVA has it.

Oh ok, Ive never seen him fight like Quintana before, its refreshing to know that he can fight like that with timing and all, I give him more of a chance now.

[Fox McCloud]

Where did you see that fight? Is it in the trading forum?

Here you go:

[bunce101]

now that abraham moved up is there anybody that can beat paul williams from 147 to 160? alot of people say this is THE style to beat williams if he overcomes this whats left? Pavlik is scared ****less that fight will never happen

[Bhopreign]

Thanks for posting that fight Wiens, now I do remember seeing parts of this. Cant believe Marinez doesnt have more names on his resume. He seems to be a young 34 though so there is plenty of time.

[Fox McCloud]

now that abraham moved up is there anybody that can beat paul williams from 147 to 160? alot of people say this is THE style to beat williams if he overcomes this whats left? Pavlik is scared ****less that fight will never happen

I really think Williams is done at 147... when you win a fairly big fight at 160, and are training to fight the lineal champ at 160, you are probably done boiling down to make 147. So this list comprises exclusively of 154 and 160 fighters.

The Williams hitlist (in order of importance):
Dzinziruk
Martinez
Pavlik
Sturm
Santos-Foreman winner
Spinks
Sylvester

Outside of those people (who consequently hold all the belts in both of the divisions), I don't see a lot of work for him to do.

[Fox McCloud]

Thanks for posting that fight Wiens, now I do remember seeing parts of this. Cant believe Marinez doesnt have more names on his resume. He seems to be a young 34 though so there is plenty of time.

I don't think he was a fan of the rolljob Margarito put on him when he was young, so I think that is why he camped out in Spain and fought substandard competition.

I do find it particularly disturbing that he fought a really bad fighter in a 4 rounder like 5 or 6 fights ago... when you have over 35 victories, your time of 4 rounders should probably be long gone.

Bunema was just coming off of a win over Karmazin and Cintron isn't bad, particularly after his win over an obviously overrated, but still okay Angulo, so it seems that is he is interested in enhancing his resume a bit.

Not to mention, he was trying for months to get a fight with Vernon Forrest, which never came off.