Why dont people diss P-Will for fighting smaller fighter?

[jrosales13]

he began his career @ 160 and has had more fights @ 154 and 160 then he has @ WW

FACT!

So by using this logic. your logic. Andre Berto is fighting smaller guys. Andre Berto is picking on smaller guys. Right. Berto began his career HIGHER than 160 and has had more fights at MW/JMW lever than WW.

And, that is a fact.

So I will wait for your thread about "Why dont people diss Berto for fighting smaller fighters?"

I am just using your own logic...

[Jamel H]

I think Wright was a pretty decent test, especially the way Paul dominated him. I'm not that concerned about the 160 though, I don't think it terribly favors either fighter. Plus Sergio gets to keep his belt if he loses.

I disagree Winky should of took an tune up, yes Paul did well but come on... is that that Winky we know? Wheres the Winky that fought Shane or Tito?

[Jamel H]

So by using this logic. your logic. Andre Berto is fighting smaller guys. Andre Berto is picking on smaller guys. Right. Berto began his career HIGHER than 160 and has had more fights at MW/JMW lever than WW.

And, that is a fact.

So I will wait for your thread about "Why dont people diss Berto for fighting smaller fighters?"

I am just using your own logic...

You got a good point... Obviously though overall it doesnt matter about the weight as you seen Pac beat up a couple of guys bigger then him so lol

[Jiddu Dali]

So by using this logic. your logic. Andre Berto is fighting smaller guys. Andre Berto is picking on smaller guys. Right. Berto began his career HIGHER than 160 and has had more fights at MW/JMW lever than WW.

And, that is a fact.

So I will wait for your thread about "Why dont people diss Berto for fighting smaller fighters?"

I am just using your own logic...

Can Berto right now fight a solid MW and be competitive?

[squealpiggy]

Because it's more fun to diss him for fighting like an arachnophobe in a cupboard full of spider webs.

[Shattered Jaw]

Williams comes in for fights at WW at 145.5.

Mayweather comes in for fights at 144 at 146.

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[goldenglove2]

So by using this logic. your logic. Andre Berto is fighting smaller guys. Andre Berto is picking on smaller guys. Right. Berto began his career HIGHER than 160 and has had more fights at MW/JMW lever than WW.

And, that is a fact.

So I will wait for your thread about "Why dont people diss Berto for fighting smaller fighters?"

I am just using your own logic...

Hope you are not counting those fights at 148-1481/2...lol.......

[BennyST]

I keep hearing all of this P-Will madness when in reality P-Williams is a Middleweight who has dropped down to fight the smaller fighters. Paul Williams started his career @ Middleweight then ultimately dropped down to Welterweight to get some big $$$$$ fights....then when those big $$$$ fights arent there he moves back up to his original weight class of MW.

why isnt anyone knocking Williams for picking on smaller fighters but they get pissy when Mayweather fights "1" fighter naturally smaller than him?

Also when people mention Williams why do they forget that Carlos Quintana boxed his ears off in the first fight.....i do give him credit for smashing Quintana the 2nd time but do people really believe that Williams (this monster that everyone avoids) who was out smarted by Quintana the first time would not be outsmarted and outboxed by Mayweather?

would love to hear NSB's thoughts on this subject

The reason people don't diss him for it is one: If he can get to WW, and he spent most of his career there so far, he is a WW. Answer this. Was Hopkins a MW when he was fighting at 160 or was he a LHW because that's where he started? Two: He is willing to fight anyone at any weight from 147 to 160, no matter how big or who it is.

Whether or not he started as a MW, he got down to WW, just like Hopkins who went from LHW to MW. He was still a MW right?

The other difference is that Williams struggles to get fights. He is not the main star of boxing that can get any fight he wants. If he could get any fight he would have fought every guy from WW to MW by now.

The other thing is he is not telling someone to come up to meet him. He is fighting anyone who is willing at whatever weight they are at. He wouldn't ask Cotto to come up to MW, he would go down to WW. He didn't ask Quintana to come up to MW, he fought him at WW and he's not asking Martinez to come up, Martinez himself wants it at that weight.

[Spray_resistant]

I keep hearing all of this P-Will madness when in reality P-Williams is a Middleweight who has dropped down to fight the smaller fighters. Paul Williams started his career @ Middleweight then ultimately dropped down to Welterweight to get some big $$$$$ fights....then when those big $$$$ fights arent there he moves back up to his original weight class of MW.

why isnt anyone knocking Williams for picking on smaller fighters but they get pissy when Mayweather fights "1" fighter naturally smaller than him?

Also when people mention Williams why do they forget that Carlos Quintana boxed his ears off in the first fight.....i do give him credit for smashing Quintana the 2nd time but do people really believe that Williams (this monster that everyone avoids) who was out smarted by Quintana the first time would not be outsmarted and outboxed by Mayweather?

would love to hear NSB's thoughts on this subject

I knock him all of the time for doing this because this is exactly what he was doing, great post he deserves no credit for any wins against WWs....except for maybe Marg because he is bigger. In boxing and just as a general rule your natural frame is as is regardless of things you do to change your weight up or down and there is a weightclass that all fighters should be fighting in exclusively.....PWill is a MW and should not and never should have been fighter smaller fighter than him.

[jrosales13]

I knock him all of the time for doing this because this is exactly what he was doing, great post he deserves no credit for any wins against WWs....except for maybe Marg because he is bigger. In boxing and just as a general rule your natural frame is as is regardless of things you do to change your weight up or down and there is a weightclass that all fighters should be fighting in exclusively.....PWill is a MW and should not and never should have been fighter smaller fighter than him.

If P-Will can make 147 comfortably how can he be a MW? Pavlik can not make 154 comfortably, sturm can't do it or Sylvester. I doubt Winky can make 154 comfortably still. Those are MWs. However, P-Will can still make 154 easy and might still be able to make 147. So he should get credit from everybody with any WW wiins he gets.