All of a sudden I have lost interest in a Shane-Floyd fight.

[jrosales13]

J, we are not talking about JMM fighting Quintana or Williams fighting Quintana.....you think Mayweather is ducking or is afraid of P Will and I used a small, fast counter punching fighter (Quintana) as an example as to why Williams will have trouble beating Mayweather. Williams landed a mere 20% of his punches in their first bout and looked very ordinary...not this MOST AVOIDED FIGHTER we are used to hearing about. So if Quintana who beat Williams, (the same Quintana who was blasted out by Cotto 2 fights earlier) could box P Wills around the ring, why would you think its soooo absurd that Mayweather wouldnt have a shot? Why do you think possibly the best fighter of our era would be afraid of a guy who was outboxed by Carlos Quintana?

Please explain my friend

Floyd is not the best fighter of my era. He might be the best fighter of your era. But, IMO I saw Whitaker fight and he was better.

The reason I made the Quinana-JMM which you didnt answer is cuz you keep saying P-Will got outboxes by Quintana. Like if Carlos is this terrible fighter. Quitana is good. So no shame in loosing to Quintana. Quintana is/was good enough to beat Floyd last 6 opponents.

But, to answer your question Floyd is not scared of any fighter. I have never said Floyd is scared of a fighter. However, I do believe Floyd is scared to lose that "0". So he avoid/duck every fighter who has a chance of beating him. Not cuz he is scared of that fighter but he is scared of loosing.

[BoxingChaos]

Seeing that Floyd peed all over himself just sort of took everything away from this. Floyd behaved like a total *****.

What ever happen to that punk who would run around yelling "I WILL TAKE ALL COMERS!"

I guess that was the Floyd of Old.

The New Floyd goes a little something like this: "I will duck anyone I deem dangerous."

***** ***** *****.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Floyd is not the best fighter of my era. He might be the best fighter of your era. But, IMO I saw Whitaker fight and he was better.

The reason I made the Quinana-JMM which you didnt answer is cuz you keep saying P-Will got outboxes by Quintana. Like if Carlos is this terrible fighter. Quitana is good. So no shame in loosing to Quintana. Quintana is/was good enough to beat Floyd last 6 opponents.

But, to answer your question Floyd is not scared of any fighter. I have never said Floyd is scared of a fighter. However, I do believe Floyd is scared to lose that "0". So he avoid/duck every fighter who has a chance of beating him. Not cuz he is scared of that fighter but he is scared of loosing.

Well to be honest and I hate to be repetitive. Mayweather isn't a 5'10 south paw with the workrate of a Quintana. They're 2 completely different so I couldn't use that as an example as to what Mayweather would do to Paul. Mayweather is a great counter puncher but against Paul, won't mean much. You counter Paul and Paul fires back a 6-7/ 8 punch combination. As for the bold, very true. Sadly, people think he is.

[UnDeniable]

Cotto is better than Mosley at this point.

Comfortably

Pacquiao would beat Shane too

Floyd gets no credit for a Mosley win

Pacquiao, Cotto, Berto and Williams are all younger and prime

Cotto, Williams and Pacquiao are also bigger risks ( Particulary Williams and Pacquiao )

[Doctor_Tenma]

Seeing that Floyd peed all over himself just sort of took everything away from this. Floyd behaved like a total *****.

What ever happen to that punk who would run around yelling "I WILL TAKE ALL COMERS!"

I guess that was the Floyd of Old.

The New Floyd goes a little something like this: "I will duck anyone I deem dangerous."

***** ***** *****.

You put too much time into hating

[jrosales13]

where was this Killer Mosley vs Vargas? all he did was land right hands, thank god Vargas has a little more boxing skill than Margarito.

Where was this Killer Mosley vs Mayorga? he struggled with a very ordinary washed up Mayorga.

Mosley was not as good at 154 as he is at 147. His only fight at 154 that he look great was in the Vargas rematch. In all his fights at 154 he looked ordinary. He is much better at 147.

Mosley is old and not at the top of the game any more

So the #1 rated WW and a top 5 P4P is not at the of the game anymore? How could that be possible?

He disses Mayweather for fighting the smaller Marquez but just a few months ago he said PUBLICLY that he would go to 140 to fight Pacquiao (where he hasnt been that weight in 9 years:

Is 2 different scenerios. Floyd was not willing to go down to 144 let alone 135. Shane was willing to go down to 140. And, Shane has never been at 140. exactly 10yrs ago he at 147. 9yrs ago he already has a victory over Oscar.

[jrosales13]

Well to be honest and I hate to be repetitive. Mayweather isn't a 5'10 south paw with the workrate of a Quintana. They're 2 completely different so I couldn't use that as an example as to what Mayweather would do to Paul. Mayweather is a great counter puncher but against Paul, won't mean much. You counter Paul and Paul fires back a 6-7/ 8 punch combination. As for the bold, very true. Sadly, people think he is.

I can see why people might think he is scared of a certain fighter. His actions sometimes make it look that way. But, early in his career he was willing to fight anybody. So I doubt he is scared of anybody. But, at the same time I think he is scared of lossing. His legacy now is not based on him fighting the best. His legacy is based on being undefeated. Is like the Marciano legacy. And, IMO Floyd is scared to lose that "0". And, I doubt he will ever get in the ring with anybody who has a legit chance of beating him. That is just my opinion.

[Iceta]

I dont want people to get the idea that I'd rather see Floyd fight Cotto over Mosley. Cotto has looked like **** in his last three fights just like Shane did against Mayorga. And I stand by my belief that Shane got robbed at MSG. I'd ten times rather see a Mosley-Floyd fight even though I don't know how rusty Shane is right now.

[Bushbaby]

And it's all because we don't really know how Shane is gonna look whenever he fights again. That to me is a ? mark. Now if he looks good and destroys Berto like he's supposed to, then I'll be craving for this fight again. But Mosley has shot himself in the foot big time by having high standards about who he should fight where name recognition is concerned. Both Mosley and Williams looked really impressive in their last fights, so they are even where that is concerned. But Williams is gonna have the edge as far as people knowing where he's at after seeing how effectively he can perform after he fights Martinez. The thought runs across my mind that the Mosley that fought Mayorga shows up against Floyd and gets outboxed by a wide margin.

Ask yourself this guys. Do you think that Paul Williams would struggle with Mayorga the way that Mosley did? I think we need to demand this fight if Williams blows out Martinez. Remember guys, we have to demand it. We can't be giving Mayweather a pass for going after a small guy like Pacquiao.

I'm not one of these people who use Paul Williams as Floyd's club bouncer to defend him from ****. But Shane Mosley is gonna look like a straight up dumb ass if Berto decides to go into another direction because Paul Williams offered him a $3 million payday and Mosley turned it down. Who is he gonna fight if the Berto fight doesn't get done? He's also getting less money against an opponent who is perceived as less of a threat. This tells me that maybe Mosley is not the guy best suited for the task.

Can't agree with u here my guy,here's why,Mosley is the biggest punching at 147!!He also has very good speed!!floyd doesn't punch enough & doesn't have the power to even bother Mosley!!floyd would literally have to stand his ground eventually,it won't be pretty when he does!!

[flyest1]

I dont want people to get the idea that I'd rather see Floyd fight Cotto over Mosley. Cotto has looked like **** in his last three fights just like Shane did against Mayorga. And I stand by my belief that Shane got robbed at MSG. I'd ten times rather see a Mosley-Floyd fight even though I don't know how rusty Shane is right now.

I haven't read this thread. But basically what your saying is that you want to see how Mosley looks against Berto before a Floyd fight? You want the best Mosley against Floyd. Not the version who fought Mayorga?