Morales sparring with Valero?

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  • BBFM
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    #11
    It really is not about erik I could care less what anyone thinks about Erik Morales , Fernando Vargas, Mike Tyson, Maury, JENNY JONES.

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    • HayeFan
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      #12
      I signed up with Maxboxing just to see the Morales sparring videos.

      I also checked out the other Valero videos, and it's fair to say that he IS being overhyped by the Maxboxing staff. Having said that, I'd also say that he did get the better of Morales, just.

      It's also fair to say that it was just sparring, Morales may have been concentrating on specific things as opposed to fighting naturally.

      I also heard that Valero lost to Israel Perez (dec 5-2) in the 2000 Central American Qualiifer for the 2000 Olympics. In the same weight class that Rocky Juarez won silver.

      As he's being touted as this 1st round KO artist/monster, does anyone know any more about that loss?

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      • DLT
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        #13
        Originally posted by HayeFan
        I signed up with Maxboxing just to see the Morales sparring videos.

        I also checked out the other Valero videos, and it's fair to say that he IS being overhyped by the Maxboxing staff. Having said that, I'd also say that he did get the better of Morales, just.

        It's also fair to say that it was just sparring, Morales may have been concentrating on specific things as opposed to fighting naturally.

        I also heard that Valero lost to Israel Perez (dec 5-2) in the 2000 Central American Qualiifer for the 2000 Olympics. In the same weight class that Rocky Juarez won silver.

        As he's being touted as this 1st round KO artist/monster, does anyone know any more about that loss?
        I dont know about that loss but I dont think too many people care about Olmpic losses. Hey man, what are you trying to get me killed? I didnt want you to sign up with Maxboxing if you didnt already have it. Yeah, he probally is over hyped but I would still like to see him against someone like Robbie Peden or something

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        • HayeFan
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          #14
          Originally posted by DLT
          I dont know about that loss but I dont think too many people care about Olmpic losses. Hey man, what are you trying to get me killed? I didnt want you to sign up with Maxboxing if you didnt already have it. Yeah, he probally is over hyped but I would still like to see him against someone like Robbie Peden or something

          You're right, most people don't put too much stock in olympic losses, but when the guy he lost to has already been soundly beaten twice as a pro, you gotta ask yourself, where was Valero's vaunted power and maneuverability?

          I signed up with Maxboxing before I'd read this thread, so you dont have to worry about the thought police.

          Maxboving are overhyping him, but then he is a fighter worth getting excited about. He hits like a mule, has great movement and ring generalship. The only visible ch-ink in his armour as far as I could see, was a leaky defence.

          Robbie Peden would do nicely. Let's just hope he's able to box again at all though. From what I've seen, he looks to be something very special.

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          • DLT
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            #15
            Originally posted by HayeFan
            You're right, most people don't put too much stock in olympic losses, but when the guy he lost to has already been soundly beaten twice as a pro, you gotta ask yourself, where was Valero's vaunted power and maneuverability?

            I signed up with Maxboxing before I'd read this thread, so you dont have to worry about the thought police.

            Maxboving are overhyping him, but then he is a fighter worth getting excited about. He hits like a mule, has great movement and ring generalship. The only visible ch-ink in his armour as far as I could see, was a leaky defence.

            Robbie Peden would do nicely. Let's just hope he's able to box again at all though. From what I've seen, he looks to be something very special.
            Yeah but alot of guys lose to people in the olympics who you have never heard of and arent good pros, like Mayweather

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            • abdiel2k3
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              #16
              Originally posted by DLT
              I know that all of you know this but I just wanted to tell you that there is a nice article on maxboxing about one of there sessions that Valero showed him a tape of. He said that Valero got the best of him but it was just 2 rounds.

              You cant always tell anything from sparring but this one might be a littile different because it seems like they really knew who eachother were if you know what I mean and both were going pretty hard. I want to see this kid in a live fight. Fish braggs on him so much but I dont agree with half the **** he says about stuff. He said that he was the best young fighter he has seen in the gym since Mayweather and he said that he saw him and Pac spar against the same guys and he would KO guys that Pac would dominate but couldnt seriously hurt. The guy is 12-0 with a record 12 first round KO's but they say he doesnt rush guys. They say he actually takes his time despite knocking out all these guys in the first.

              I say this. If he can spar with guys like Erik then he should be able to fight. Let the kid fight
              he very easliy could have gotten the better of erik for 2rounds
              erik tend sto do that
              gives up couple rounds to feel out the other fighter
              its nothin surprising
              when it matters in the ring
              erik would prolly take it to the kid easy

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              • boxernyc
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                #17
                Hayefan, I used your avarar to mock how Dougie and Valero seem to have a very close working relationship. I hope you don't mind. I think Valero is a great boxer and that he is okay to box. If he isn't I really hope they don't let him. We don't need any more boxers who can't speak.

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