The rule that Sugar Ray Robinson is the best of all time

[boxasmash]

I'm not saying he isn't but seeing as most of his welterweight career is not on tape (his prime) is there enough clips for us to claim that without doubt he is the greatest fighter of all time and no one comes close? If someone says someone else they are instantly called a noob.

I've watched as much as I can of SRR and no doubt he was amazing but I can't really claim he's the best ever with such little amount of video I have.

[rskumm21]

Based on his accomplishments and who he beat, plus many people that are still living, did witness these fight and can attest for them.

[TheGreatA]

Well, more than 50 of his fights were filmed which should be enough to judge any fighter's abilities and his accomplishments speak for themselves.

I can say this though, to most boxing historians the claim that Robinson was the greatest p4p is quite disputed. To some it's Greb, to some it's Armstrong, to some it might even be a fighter from today like Mayweather or Roy Jones. It's all good as long as you can back your argument as to who the best ever was in your view with facts.

[Ryn0]

We have video of him out of his prime beating MW's right? SO it stand to reason that he was even better at WW as well as being unbeaten at Welter with a pretty incredible resume at both weights:

Sammy Angott (LW champ moving up first fight was at 136lbs)
Marty Servo (future WW champ)
Fritzie Zivic (former WW champ)
Lamotta (MW champ)
Henry Armstrong (Three weight world champ at once time)
Tommy Bell (title contender)
George Costner
Kid Gavilan (Future WW champ)
Randy Turpin (MW champ)
Carl Bobo Olson (MW Champ)
Rocky Graziano (former MW champ)
Gene Fullmer (MW champ incredible KO)
Carmen Basilio (MW champ)

He fought most of them multiple times and it argueable that quite a few of them at ATG fighters some even P4P level fighters.

[Kiid Dynamite]

We have video of him out of his prime beating MW's right? SO it stand to reason that he was even better at WW as well as being unbeaten at Welter with a pretty incredible resume at both weights:

Sammy Angott (LW champ moving up first fight was at 136lbs)
Marty Servo (future WW champ)
Fritzie Zivic (former WW champ)
Lamotta (MW champ)
Henry Armstrong (Three weight world champ at once time)
Tommy Bell (title contender)
George Costner
Kid Gavilan (Future WW champ)
Randy Turpin (MW champ)
Carl Bobo Olson (MW Champ)
Rocky Graziano (former MW champ)
Gene Fullmer (MW champ incredible KO)
Carmen Basilio (MW champ)

He fought most of them multiple times and it argueable that quite a few of them at ATG fighters some even P4P level fighters.

nicely put

[Allucard]

We have video of him out of his prime beating MW's right? SO it stand to reason that he was even better at WW as well as being unbeaten at Welter with a pretty incredible resume at both weights:

Sammy Angott (LW champ moving up first fight was at 136lbs)
Marty Servo (future WW champ)
Fritzie Zivic (former WW champ)
Lamotta (MW champ)
Henry Armstrong (Three weight world champ at once time)
Tommy Bell (title contender)
George Costner
Kid Gavilan (Future WW champ)
Randy Turpin (MW champ)
Carl Bobo Olson (MW Champ)
Rocky Graziano (former MW champ)
Gene Fullmer (MW champ incredible KO)
Carmen Basilio (MW champ)

He fought most of them multiple times and it argueable that quite a few of them at ATG fighters some even P4P level fighters.

Very impressive!

[Sam D. Menace]

he;s only the greatest all time by default cuz he brought the first spot light to boxing
dont get confused, back then alot of the people would be like the bums we have now
but i have no doubt in my mind roy jones would slaughter robinson 10 times out of 10

if jones had those thin as gloves there would be more broken ribs

[TheGreatA]

We have video of him out of his prime beating MW's right? SO it stand to reason that he was even better at WW as well as being unbeaten at Welter with a pretty incredible resume at both weights:

Sammy Angott (LW champ moving up first fight was at 136lbs)
Marty Servo (future WW champ)
Fritzie Zivic (former WW champ)
Lamotta (MW champ)
Henry Armstrong (Three weight world champ at once time)
Tommy Bell (title contender)
George Costner
Kid Gavilan (Future WW champ)
Randy Turpin (MW champ)
Carl Bobo Olson (MW Champ)
Rocky Graziano (former MW champ)
Gene Fullmer (MW champ incredible KO)
Carmen Basilio (MW champ)

He fought most of them multiple times and it argueable that quite a few of them at ATG fighters some even P4P level fighters.

Here are all the top 10 ranked contenders Robinson beat:

Joe Ghnouly
Pete Lello
Maxie Shapiro
Maxie Berger
Norman Rubio x2
Tony Motisi
Reuben Shank
Izzy Jannazzo x4
Ralph Zannelli
Sheik Rangel
Tommy Bell x2
George Costner x2
Jose Basora x2
Jimmy McDaniels
Cecil Hudson x2
Georgie Abrams
Jimmy Doyle
Bernard Docusen
Vic Dellicurti
Steve Belloise
Aaron Wade
Ray Barnes
Robert Villemain x2
Charley Fusari
Bobby Dykes
Holly Mims
Artie Levine
Cyrille Delanoit
Rocky Castellani
Denny Moyer
Hans Stretz
Ralph Dupas

Sammy Angott x3
Fritzie Zivic x2
Jake LaMotta x5
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan x2
Carl Olson x4
Randolph Turpin
Rocky Graziano
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

[dans]

Robinson beat a slew of HOF boxers and began his career with an amazing record. In Robinson's first 11 years as a pro, he was 128-1-2.

Enough said.

[Toney Loc]

Call me crazy but I think Sugar Ray Leonard beats him.