Adamek: "I Made a Statement About My Power"

[Benny Leonard]

I'm not a racist, Benny. I respect nearly every fighter, regardless of race or nationality.

You definitely are though, in your strange delusional kind of way. You need to free yourself from that bull****, and realize that in reality, we're really not so different from yourself as you believe.

Me?

You are so full of it.

You have no idea who I am and what I am about and the family I come from.

You continue to bring up anything ***ish with me despite me not being ***ish...now why would that be?

I was raised in a family of mixed ethnicity and mixed beliefs systems that have enabled me to understand that all people are humans and come from the same family tree. Ideals may separate us but in the end, it really doesn't matter a whole lot because we share the same amount of space when we die.



It's like our little discussion on "God" accepting "Gay" people. I don't even care if someone is gay because to me, it's all in nature and accepted...I have no problem with it.

Now for you, who knows. They are probably in line next to the ***s ready to be shipped off to your imaginary hell. But hey, that's your choice in belief and can be accepted in nature. Racists and non-racists are all a part of nature.

[The Hammer]

Me?

You are so full of it.

You have no idea who I am and what I am about and the family I come from.

You continue to bring up anything ***ish with me despite me not being ***ish...now why would that be?

It's like our little discussion on "God" accepting "Gay" people. I don't even care if someone is gay because to me, it's all in nature and accepted...I have no problem with it.

Now for you, who knows. They are probably in line next to the ***s ready to be shipped off to your imaginary hell. But hey, that's your choice in belief and can be accepted in nature. Racists and non-racists are all a part of nature.

I've never said anything about either gays or ***s in this thread...why do you bring them into it?

I don't care if someone is gay or not, I have no problem with it because it doesn't affect me in any adverse way. Different strokes for different folks!

If you are ***ish, why would that bother me? Whatever your religion or culture is does not affect me in any adverse way.

But when you discredit all good European fighters because of some old prejudices you just can't leave behind, I don't like it.

It's easy Benny - just don't bash, ridicule and/or discredit my favorite boxers, and you'll never get a negative reply from me again.

[Benny Leonard]

I've never said anything about either gays or ***s...why do you bring them into it?

I don't care if someone is gay or not, I have no problem with it because it doesn't affect me in any adverse way. Different strokes for different folks!

If you are ***ish, why would that bother me? Whatever your religion or culture is does not affect me in any adverse way.

But when you discredit all good European fighters because of some old prejudices you just can't leave behind, I don't like it.

It's easy Benny - just don't bash, ridicule and/or discredit my favorite boxers, and you'll never get a negative reply from me again.

You always bring the "***" card up with me despite me continually telling you that I am not a *** and I don't understand why you keep with it.


What prejudices do I have with "European fighters"?


Because I pointed out that Adamek beat a shot Golota?
How am I wrong about that?

Why don't you have higher standards?

Were you in a sports league that gave out trophies to everybody because somebody wanted to cover up the fact that people really aren't born equal in talents?

I understand this. I will never play in the NBA, MLB, or NFL because I don't have the talent to no matter how hard I try.

I will never cure cancer because I am not smart enough.

But I do understand what I am good at that can balance things out.

We all have our strengths and weaknesses which does make us human and have something in common...that and dying.

[The Hammer]

You always bring the "***" card up with me despite me continually telling you that I am not a *** and I don't understand why you keep with it.

Where did I mention anything about ***ish? You brought them into this discussion for some reason.

What prejudices do I have with "European fighters"?

Because I pointed out that Adamek beat a shot Golota?
How am I wrong about that?

But why did you feel a need to post those three videos?

We all know about those fights, and we all know Golota is old! But it was still an impressive performance by the much smaller Adamek, he looked great today.

There has been a pattern to your discrediting European boxers. You never do it to Black, Hispanic or Asian fighters, only Europeans. You seem to have a fear that Adamek, Calzaghe or the Klitschkos will become popular, unless you can persuade people to focus more on the negative about them.

[The Hammer]

Why don't you have higher standards?

Why didn't Showtime's Hershman or HBO's Greenburg have high enough standards to have an exciting fighter like Adamek on TV against Cunningham or Johnson? Virtually every boxing fan seemed to enjoy Adamek-Cunningham I.

Adamek took the fight with Golota BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET A DECENT PAYDAY AT CRUISERWEIGHT. He tried to get the fight with Glen Johnson in June and July, but they wouldn't televise it. Then later he tried to get a fight with his IBF mandatory Cunningham, but Showtime and HBO had no interest.

[Freddy Krueger]

Adamek is a beast and he is a small heavyweight and proved that even being a small heavyweight he still has power. I wasn't expecting him to knock out Golota since Golota was like 40 pounds more than him. And only in 5 rounds!

[The Hammer]

Adamek is a beast and he is a small heavyweight and proved that even being a small heavyweight he still has power. I wasn't expecting him to knock out Golota since Golota was like 40 pounds more than him. And only in 5 rounds!

Good post, green karma given!

[Benny Leonard]

=Carnivore;6453924]Where did I mention anything about ***ish? You brought them into this discussion for some reason.

= Carnivore: C'mon, give a goy credit, Benny!

Which goes along with your many other posts/messages with me

Goy = Goy (Hebrew: גוי, regular plural goyim גוים or גויים) is a Hebrew word which means "nation".[1] Historically and up to modern times it is a synonym for Gentile or non-***

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goy

But why did you feel a need to post those three videos?

We all know about those fights, and we all know Golota is old! But it was still an impressive performance by the much smaller Adamek, he looked great today.

Ahhhh, how about because the Hype machine started and I wanted to remind everybody that we shouldn't continually fall into that trap like many of us do repeatedly after a fight.

And I do it with other fighters...even Floyd Mayweather when he knocked out Sharmba Mitchell. I noted Tszyu did it before and it was a Tszyu left-over...just like Judah was.

I'm just not as easily impressed as you I guess.

There has been a pattern to your discrediting European boxers. You never do it to Black, Hispanic or Asian fighters, only Europeans. You seem to have a fear that Adamek, Calzaghe or the Klitschkos will become popular, unless you can persuade people to focus more on the negative about them.

Except I did give a lot of credit for his wins over Kessler (although European) as well as Lacy.

And I did give credit to Vitali for his wins.

And I can care less if they become popular because they already are.

Why would I care when I watch for talent?
I'm a fan of many "European" athletes so you hold no leverage. I even listed the ones I liked to you before or did you forget?

I think this topic has more to do with you and how you feel.
Maybe you feel you are being mistreated and feel insecure about it in your life but want to bring it here into the forum.
It's alright Carnivore...it's alright.

[Benny Leonard]

Why didn't Showtime's Hershman or HBO's Greenburg have high enough standards to have an exciting fighter like Adamek on TV against Cunningham or Johnson? Virtually every boxing fan seemed to enjoy Adamek-Cunningham I.

Adamek took the fight with Golota BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET A DECENT PAYDAY AT CRUISERWEIGHT. He tried to get the fight with Glen Johnson in June and July, but they wouldn't televise it. Then later he tried to get a fight with his IBF mandatory Cunningham, but Showtime and HBO had no interest.

RATINGS is my guess. It's all about RATINGS/MONEY/BUSINESS.

If fighters want to be paid big time money, they need the fan support to fill the arena as well as the sponsers and ratings to pay for it and make a profit.

There is only so much money they can dish out for a fight so they will look at their options. One bad fight where they lose money and they can get fired and hurt the channel. I think this may have happened to HBO because there was talk that they ran into money trouble.

I don't discount the possibility that they are incapable of doing a great job either...but I also don't have the numbers and the papers that they have to be positive.

I'm not blaming Adamek for taking the fight (even for money which is cool with me). What I am against his hyping his win against a shot fighter like he just beat the HW Champion of the World.

[The Hammer]

RATINGS is my guess. It's all about RATINGS/MONEY/BUSINESS.

Take a look at HBO's schedule. Did Dawson-Tarver II have high ratings? No. Did Williams-Wright? NO.

Did Klitschko-Areola have high ratings? Yes.

So why aren't they televising Klitschko-Johnson? Why are they looking to put Dawson on Nov 7 and Williams on Dec 5, but can't afford to have Klitschko on December 12?

Surely you know Adamek-Cunningham II is a more appealing fight to most boxing fans than Agbeko-Perez and Spinks-Molina? But Showtime's Hershman turned down Cunningham-Adamek II.

If fighters want to be paid big time money, they need the fan support to fill the arena as well as the sponsers and ratings to pay for it and make a profit.

Adamek has a big Polish-American following, and is in fact popular with most fans. Cunningham-Adamek I sold out, and Adamek-Banks was close to a sellout. Adamek is an exciting, aggressive fighter.

I was at Williams-Wright in a similar sized venue in Vegas, the Mandalay Bay, and over half the seats were empty. Yet it was televised on HBO.

There is only so much money they can dish out for a fight so they will look at their options. One bad fight where they lose money and they can get fired and hurt the channel. I think this may have happened to HBO because there was talk that they ran into money trouble.

I heard that talk too, but they are still putting on all those other fights! I smell BS.

I think this topic has more to do with you and how you feel.
Maybe you feel you are being mistreated and feel insecure about it in your life but want to bring it here into the forum.
It's alright Carnivore...it's alright.

No, Benny, it's YOUR insecurity that's at issue here. It causes you to discredit and be negative about European boxers.

All I want is to be able to enjoy boxing without your insecure comments.