David Haye: ‘My mum says I’m not allowed to have a tattoo’

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • STILL_DETOX
    Undisputed
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • May 2009
    • 3181
    • 201
    • 359
    • 15,204

    #1

    David Haye: ‘My mum says I’m not allowed to have a tattoo’



    David Haye has been upsetting more people than Nick Griffin of late. There was an angry letter in The Guardian last week: “David Haye has once again seen fit to insult an opponent, calling Nikolai Valuev ‘smelly’. His petty sniping does little to win him much respect among his fellow boxers’.” And another in The Observer: “The British boxer’s behaviour ahead of next month’s world title fight is crass, disrespectful and asking for a bruising comeuppance.”

    The German fight promoter, Kalle Sauerland, issued this stinging rebuke: “Haye’s behaviour is very strange and not normal at all. I think one German phrase sums it up well: 1,000 volts but no light.” And there was this bone-shaking uppercut from Valuev: “I cannot take him seriously. When I heard what he has been doing I thought, ‘Oh my God, another idiot in our world’.”

    But what if David Haye was working to a plan?

    We meet on a Friday afternoon in London at a plush hotel and from the moment we sit down he is making an absolute fool of me.

    “I’ve read that your father, Darren, is a taxi driver,” I announce. Not true. His father, Deron, is a panel beater.

    “I’ve read that you watched the Nigel Benn/Gerald McClellan fight from a ringside seat at the London Arena?”

    Not true. He was a 15-year-old kid from Bermondsey in 1995. Where would he have got a ticket?

    “I’ve read that you established a training base in Northern Cyprus and wore the flag of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus on your shorts because the wife of your manager, Adam Booth, is from there,” I suggest.

    Not true. Adam Booth is his coach. Booth’s father is a Turkish Cypriot.

    “And you can’t possibly have said this about Valuev. ‘He is the ugliest thing I have ever seen. I have watched Lord of the Rings and films with strange-looking people but for a human being to look like him — it’s pretty shocking’.”

    But he nails me again. Every word is true. “It was after our face-to-face — or face-to-waist in our case,” he laughs, “and I looked at him and thought, ‘Damn! I’ve never seen anything like him before in my life!’ It’s not so much his size — because you get big guys — but I’ve never seen a head that big.”

    “So that wasn’t just hype?” I inquire.

    “No, he really did strike me as one of the baddies from Lord of the Rings.”

    “But you have hyped it since,” I suggest.

    “Oh yeah, I love the whole hype factor,” he smiles. “I like watching it after the fight because I don’t really get to enjoy it while I’m in it ... it’s good fun. But the hype is forgotten as soon as the first bell goes. I’ve said some controversial things; I’ve done some controversial things ... so what? Once the fight happens, that’s what people remember.”

    “So it’s just business?”

    “It’s business, it gets people excited. Whenever I look to a fight, I look forward to it more when there has been some kind of animosity between the guys and I’m sure other people think like that as well. There’s nothing worse than when you see a lovefest — two guys hugging and kissing. You don’t want to see best friends fight each other.”

    ONE of the 479,000 options for David Haye on Google is a short video clip: “See the heavyweight strip for Cosmo’s naked shoot.” It opens with a shot of the Englishman’s impeccably braided head, diamond-studded ears and handsome face, smiling into a camera: “My name is David Haye, aka the Hayemaker,” he announces, “and I’m doing a shoot for Cosmopolitan magazine, getting out the old body for all you lovely ladies.” WARNING! If you’re not a lovely lady, or your name is Nikolai Valuev, you may feel slightly queasy with what happens next; the woman powdering his nose and rubbing oil on his chest; Haye flexing his pecks and flaunting his Adonis curves.

    One thing strikes you when you review the clip, the thing that resonates most when we meet a few days later. The absence of malice. He is not Mike Tyson. There is no sense at all that this is one of the most lethal boxers on the planet.

    “You don’t have any tattoos,” I observe.

    “No,” he replies.

    “That makes you kind of unusual.”

    “I know. My mum says I’m not allowed to have a tattoo.”

    “Your mum?”

    “Yeah.”

    “Not allowed?”

    “Not allowed. She always said, ‘No tattoos’, so no tattoos.”

    “How old were you?”

    “She said it when I was 10 ... 12 ... ‘You’re not getting a tattoo’.”

    “So you didn’t.”

    “No.”

    “I’m sure there were other things she told you not to do.”

    “Yes,” he smiles, “but she would never forgive me if I got a tattoo.”

    The second of three kids born to Deron and Jane, he grew up in the south London borough of Bermondsey and set his sights on a career in boxing when Tyson became heavyweight champion of the world.

    “I was six or seven at the time,” he recalls, “and I remember everyone saying, ‘Have you seen this Tyson? He’s the most dangerous man on the planet’. I wanted people to speak about me like that. It was all I wanted to do.

    “I’d tell my teachers when they told me to listen or gave me homework that it wasn’t relevant to what I was going to do in life. I didn’t want anything to fall back on. I thought, ‘If you put all your eggs in one basket then you ain’t going to fail’. It wasn’t the smartest plan in the world but it seems to have worked.”

    The toughest kid in the playground, Haye first laced a glove as a 10-year-old at the Fitzroy Lodge Amateur Boxing Club in Lambeth. Within six years he was boxing for England. “I remember the first time,” he says. “It was Young England against Young Russia. I was a light-heavyweight at the time, the Russians were beating us 4-1 and my fight was last. The guys kept coming back to the changing room, busted-up and bloodied and I thought, ‘Oh, here we go’. But I knocked the guy out in the first round.” Tyson would have approved.

    The knockout was a speciality. So was the sleepout. Mick Carney, a gifted trainer and stalwart of the Lambeth gym, described Haye as the most brilliant boxer he had seen ... and the laziest. “He was a pain in the arse to train,” he told The Times last year. “If I had a gym full of Hayes, I’d have committed suicide long ago.”

    Haye ships the blow and smiles: “I had a lazy type of style,” he demurs. The way I used to see it was ... you could learn to box like everybody else, but everybody else practises against someone who does the same thing. So if you do something completely different, they’re not really prepared for that, because they haven’t prepared for people like that, so I’d have an advantage straight away.

    “But when you’re a young kid coming through they [trainers] don’t really want to see that. I don’t think I’m a lazy person at heart. It’s only as I’ve got older and started fighting better opposition that I’ve actually really had to focus 100%. I’ve gone into fights less that 50% prepared and looked amazing. It has always taken someone to beat me [for me] to pull my finger out.”

    His first “Buster Douglas” was a light-punching Coventry amateur called Jim Twite. The year was 1999 and after wiping the floor with the reigning national champion, Courtney Fry, Haye was drawn against Twite at the York Hall, Bethnal Green. “Before the fights I used to tell my mates, ‘Bet on this round’ and sometimes I’d hold the guys up until the round and knock them out so my pals could earn some money.

    “This guy [Twite] wasn’t that good so I thought, ‘I’ll do him in two rounds’. So I go out and bounce around and he slings a really big shot and hits me on the chin. I remember thinking, ‘What are you trying to do? Wait until the next round because you’re going to get it!’

    “So I’m messing around, trying to kill the clock until the next round when I can actually throw some punches and the next thing I know, I’m looking up at the referee and he’s going, ‘Six ... seven’. I’m thinking, ‘Surely you should start from one!’ I get to me feet at eight and a half and say, ‘I’m okay, I’m okay’ but he stops the fight and says, ‘It’s over’.

    “I couldn’t for the life of me understand what had happened. I had never in my life been knocked down in the ring or in sparring since the age of 10. It was a big wake-up call.”
  • STILL_DETOX
    Undisputed
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • May 2009
    • 3181
    • 201
    • 359
    • 15,204

    #2
    After a brief flirtation with modelling at Abercrombie and Fitch (“I laugh when models say, ‘It’s not as easy as it looks’. It is. Standing and posing is not hard.”) he turned pro in December 2002 and wasn’t extended beyond four rounds in his first 10 wins. His next fight, against an ageing Carl Thompson, should have been a formality but he was spending too much time in front of his bathroom mirror.

    “It was a similar lesson to the Jim Twite fight,” he says. “I was cutting more and more corners but still getting results and I looked at Carl Thompson and thought, ‘He’s old. I’m younger. I’m fresher. I’m much more athletic. I can take this guy out’. I had a game plan to break him down slowly because he’s a tough customer but I got out there and heard the roar of the crowd and thought, ‘I’ll knock him out quick’. It was the wrong mindset and I paid the price. I ran out of steam completely, punched myself out in four rounds.

    “Adam, my coach, saw I was gasping for air and had nothing left. Carl Thompson put me down with a shot that wouldn’t normally put me down and Adam threw the towel in to save me for another day.”

    The lecture came first. Booth sat him down and spelt it out. Haye’s talent wasn’t enough. He had no future in the game unless he started to train properly and applied himself more diligently. They set up a boot camp near the home of Booth’s father in Kyrenia in Northern Cyprus and went to work.

    “Talented individuals in sporting history have a background of complacency,” Booth explained in an interview last year. “They don’t have to strive. The way we deal with that with David is constantly putting stress in front of him.”

    In November 2007, Haye won the WBC/WBA world cruiserweight titles by stopping Jean-Marc Mormeck in Paris. Three months later, he became the undisputed champion of the division when he knocked out Enzo Maccarinelli in London. His new diet and fitness regime were essential to the wins but the key component was fear ...

    “Mentally, I’ve always found it harder to get up for those fights where I’m expected to destroy the guy, so when it comes to grafting hard, you don’t really have the drive. But when everyone is going, ‘Whoa! I don’t know about this guy! He’s 7ft 2in! Are you sure you can beat him?’ I want to hit the gym to prove everyone wrong. I need that fear in my belly. I need to think, ‘Right, if I don’t get this right I can come a cropper here’. That’s when I’m at my best.”

    “Have you got that fear now?” I ask.

    “Yeah, I’ve had that fear for the last [few fights]. I will only pick someone if they give me some sort of fear. For instance this guy [Valuev], when you watch his fights you can see how effective he is. He’s so big, so strong, he can’t be knocked out.”

    “You’ve set a date for your retirement. You’re going to stop at 31?”

    “Yeah.”

    “That’s unusual as well.”

    “I set that date when I first started boxing at 10. I’ll be retired as heavyweight champion before I’m 31. But it’s only two years away now, it’s gone really, really quick.”

    “There’s no way you’re going to stick to that,” I suggest.

    “I will. I’ve never met anyone who agrees with me but that’s my plan. It’s been my plan from day one. A lot of boxers just keep fighting for financial reasons but if I achieve my goal then . . .”

    “What is the goal?”

    “To become recognised as the best heavyweight on the planet. I was the best cruiserweight so that’s ticked off, so now it’s the best heavyweight ... so the kids in the playground would say, ‘The best fighter on the planet is David Haye’.”

    “What if I asked you to name the greatest British boxer of all time?”

    “Lennox Lewis.”

    “Followed by?”

    “Nigel Benn.”

    “And?”

    “Naseem Hamed.”

    “Interesting.”

    “They’re all guys I’ve watched and studied. They are my three favourite British fighters, with all completely different styles.”

    “I want the greatest, not your favourites. Are they the greatest?”

    “I think so, yeah.”

    “What about [Joe] Calzaghe?”

    “No, I grew up with these guys whereas Calzaghe is around now and more like a colleague. I haven’t watched Calzaghe for inspiration but I was a massive fan of Nigel Benn.”

    “How important is it for you to make that list?”

    “Everything. That’s what my whole life has been geared towards. I said from day one it was what I was going to do and I can taste it. It’s around the corner.”

    David Haye on Nikolay Valuev

    Jul 23 “Valuev’s known as ‘The Beast from the East’ and there’s a reason he’s got that nickname. He’s a big, ugly, sweaty and hairy man from the Eastern bloc.”

    Sept 22 "He is the ugliest thing I have ever seen. I have watched Lord of the Rings and films with strange looking people but for a human being to look like he does is pretty shocking.”

    Oct 12 “The size I am, I sort of come up to his chest and the word around the campfire is that he doesn’t smell too sweet. I’ve talked to a few guys that have been in the ring with him and they say that’s the first thing they notice, just the stench.”

    “All you’ve got to do is look at a picture of the guy and that speaks volumes. I consider him more of a freak that happens to be boxing.”

    “He's an ugly type of fighter, he tries to lean on you, tries to brawl and comes out with a really hairy chest that gets matted and is disgusting.”

    The latest breaking UK, US, world, business and sport news from The Times and The Sunday Times. Go beyond today's headlines with in-depth analysis and comment.

    Comment

    • El_Cholo
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • May 2009
      • 2330
      • 118
      • 48
      • 11,120

      #3
      if HW boxing is going to be saved then the Hayemaker has to win, plain and simple

      Comment

      Working...
      TOP