Did Castillo beat Mayweather the first time?

**-EAGLE-** · 10-23-2009, 04:15 PM

i always said & will say: YES.

**larry x** · 10-23-2009, 04:17 PM

oh my god will people ever stop beating this dead horse..floyd is 40-0 get over it..he won a close fight and clarified the win in a rematch..point blank period lets move on..how many fighters dont have close fights in their careers??

**cortdawg25** · 10-23-2009, 04:19 PM

Here we go again!!! It never fails!

**BoxingChaos** · 10-23-2009, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by Benncollinsaad

I have a hunch that this will bring on a storm of angry responses from Mayweather "mafiosos", but anyway.

Do you think Castillo deserved to win their first fight??

I can already hear "go **** yourself *****!" coming...

The one thing that people bring up in any fight, are the punch stats and the *****S have always used the punch stats to confirm or strengthen their argument but when you ask them about the punch stats for the Castillo fight, they claim the compubox was broken

But they brought up the compubox numbers once again to defend Floyd after the ODLH fight.

I say Floyd lost and so do many and I do mean many other people.

**Syf** · 10-23-2009, 04:22 PM

nope... announcers and compubox bloated the actual landed punches from Castillo. Floyd blocked, dodged, or slipped at least half of the punches compubox gave Castillo credit for. At LEAST half.

**da chosen 1** · 10-23-2009, 04:28 PM

Floyd won both fights, but we have disscussed this thousands of times over the years, iim sick of of it, its damn near 2010 now move forward

**handwraps** · 10-23-2009, 04:29 PM

castillo won the fight but what can we do. at that time i actually liked mayweather. dudes is funny you talk bout may they get upset. but they the 1st ones to talk about other fighters

**Syf** · 10-23-2009, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by BoxingChaos

The one thing that people bring up in any fight, are the punch stats and the *****S have always used the punch stats to confirm or strengthen their argument but when you ask them about the punch stats for the Castillo fight, they claim the compubox was broken

But they brought up the compubox numbers once again to defend Floyd after the ODLH fight.

I say Floyd lost and so do many and I do mean many other people.

I think you are under the impression that compubox is completely a computer.

Originally posted by Wiki Compubox

The system calls for two operators. Each operator watches one of the two fighters and has access to four keys, corresponding to jab connect, jab miss, power punch connect, and power punch miss. The operators key in the different punches as they happen, collecting punch counts and hit percentages along the way.

Its human derived statistics..they count punches.. and then input them into the program.

I NEVER had much faith in compubox...sure its a nice little perk HBO offers..but it has been wrong before..and should not be viewed as the end all, be all.

**The Gambler1981** · 10-23-2009, 04:33 PM

JLC gave away way to many early rounds and he did not sweep the last rounds.

About the punchstats, it has to do about the dispersian of punches, a fighter could land 20 punches a round for 12 rounds while one guy land 50 in 4 rounds then 10 in the rest, so the guy that landed 20 punches a round (240 overall) should most likely win 8 rounds while the guy that lands more overalll punches 280 should only win four.

Punchstats are not used as a judging tool and as looked at round by round the correct man won but it was a close hard fight.

Did Castillo beat Mayweather the first time?