Comments Thread For: David Benavidez promoter says fighter ?will not wait? for Dmitry Bivol

[boxingitis]

Bivol already fought beterbiev twice.

Sure, Beterbiev 3 is a bigger fight. David7s best wins are Beterbiev`s and Bivol`s leftovers.

That's what he has to do when Bivol ducks him, the leftvoers have more balls than Bivol. He "destroyed" Zurdo, (UNIFIED CRUISEWEIGHT Champ) while Bivol is faking an Injury to Age out Betervieb and Duck Benavidez.

Let me know when Bivol is ready to fight for the WBC that Benavidez took from him without breaking a Sweat.

When Bivol faced Zurdo, Zurdo wasn't even a champ.

[hardleft]

Betervieb wasn't a DRAW at the point. How was that a BIG FIGHT? Or in what time frame are you talking about. Why go after Betervieb who isn't a Draw than target the biggest fight in Boxing, Benavidez vs Canelo.

the canelo fight was never going to happen he was never going to fight david so david ended up backing the wrong horse, the biggest fights were at 175 and thats turned out to be correct

[boxingitis]

the canelo fight was never going to happen he was never going to fight david so david ended up backing the wrong horse, the biggest fights were at 175 and thats turned out to be correct

That's why Bivol was willing to go to 168 for Canelo Rematch, because the biggest fights were at 175.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/04/12/6436f70246163f40458b45cb.html

So you are OK for Bivol wanting to go to 168 for a Canelo match, but NOT Benavidez for a Canelo match. Make it make sense.

[hellencharlexx]

I get why Lewkowicz is bringing that up, but I think the comparison to Canelo is a bit more about negotiation patterns than anything stylistic or competitive.

With Bivol vs Benavidez, the real issue isn’t really the fighters themselves — it’s the usual mix of timing, risk assessment, and promotional incentives. Bivol is in a strong position after his recent run, and Benavidez is in that “high risk, high reward” category where not everyone is eager to jump in immediately.

That’s why these fights tend to stall rather than fall apart completely.

Stylistically though, it’s a very different situation from Canelo matchups — Benavidez brings constant pressure and volume, while Bivol is more about control, distance, and timing. That contrast actually makes it a very interesting fight if it ever gets made.

The real question is whether both sides see enough upside to take the risk at the same time. If they do, it’s one of the best possible matchups in the division right now.

[boxingitis]

I get why Lewkowicz is bringing that up, but I think the comparison to Canelo is a bit more about negotiation patterns than anything stylistic or competitive.

With Bivol vs Benavidez, the real issue isn’t really the fighters themselves — it’s the usual mix of timing, risk assessment, and promotional incentives. Bivol is in a strong position after his recent run, and Benavidez is in that “high risk, high reward” category where not everyone is eager to jump in immediately.

That’s why these fights tend to stall rather than fall apart completely.

Stylistically though, it’s a very different situation from Canelo matchups — Benavidez brings constant pressure and volume, while Bivol is more about control, distance, and timing. That contrast actually makes it a very interesting fight if it ever gets made.

The real question is whether both sides see enough upside to take the risk at the same time. If they do, it’s one of the best possible matchups in the division right now.

You mean "IF" Bivol wants to take the risk. Benavidez was already the WBC Mandotory.

[hardleft]

That's why Bivol was willing to go to 168 for Canelo Rematch, because the biggest fights were at 175.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/04/12/6436f70246163f40458b45cb.html

So you are OK for Bivol wanting to go to 168 for a Canelo match, but NOT Benavidez for a Canelo match. Make it make sense.

u dont make any sense

canelo fought bivol because he though he would be an easy win, of course bivol was going to take that offer, canelo made it clear he wasnt fighting david and he was backed up by the wbc so david made the wrong choice by hammering at a door that was never going to open, canelo opened the door for bivol and paid the price, he then sold himself to bud down the line but thats just how canelo is, david could have hopped on to 175 at any point and got big fights so now hes waiting for the guys there to sort things out and he and his fans are demanding things that are not going to happen and they cant even understand why

[boxingitis]

u dont make any sense

canelo fought bivol because he though he would be an easy win, of course bivol was going to take that offer, canelo made it clear he wasnt fighting david and he was backed up by the wbc so david made the wrong choice by hammering at a door that was never going to open, canelo opened the door for bivol and paid the price, he then sold himself to bud down the line but thats just how canelo is, david could have hopped on to 175 at any point and got big fights so now hes waiting for the guys there to sort things out and he and his fans are demanding things that are not going to happen and they cant even understand why

Bivol CAN fight Benavidez NEXT and make a BIG FIGHT. The same problem Benavidez had with Canelo, he has with Bivol. That's WHY Benavidez "hopped" to CRUISER Weight and NOT WAIT for Bivol. See how moving up in WEIGHT doesn't make DUCKS Like Bivol and Canelo face him.

If Benavidez had hopped to 175 earlier, people like Bivol would have DUCKED him anyways and NO big fights would have happend, like it is now.
See how LONG Bivol waited to face Beterbiev, to age him out and STILL lost to 40 year old.

[hardleft]

Bivol CAN fight Benavidez NEXT and make a BIG FIGHT. The same problem Benavidez had with Canelo, he has with Bivol. That's WHY Benavidez "hooped" to CRUISER Weight and NOT WAIT for Bivol. See how moving up in WEIGHT doesn't make DUCKS Like Bivol and Canelo face him.

If Benavidez had hopped to 175 earlier, people like Bivol would have DUCKED him anyways and NO big fights would have happend, like it is now.
See how LONG Bivol waited to face Beterbiev, to age him out.

more babble i have no idea what u are on about

david choose exactly what he wanted to do, he choose to stay at 168 fighting plant andrade etc that was his choice, he wanted canelo but canelo was never going to fight him, he never won a world title because canelo had them all, then as soon as the big fight at 175 happens and there is an undisputed champ david demands to fight that guy even tho its clear there will be several fights between bivol and beter with turki cash, so he goes and makes a choice which HE WANT TO DO and for good cash as well v his old sparring partner to go and fight zurdo, noone is waiting for anyone, noone care what david is doing he can do whatever he likes and thats what he does

he wanted canelo with all the belts and couldnt get him, he wants bivol with the belts but bivol is fighting the other top guy at 175, not david but beter, so basically david wants someone else to accumulate the belts and he comes in and fights them at the end, well tough luck, he made his bed, hes not a top guy at 175 so he will have to wait until its sorted or else turki wants the fight before that, its not hard to understand, he and his fans can cry all they want will change nothing

[SouthpawRight]

more babble i have no idea what u are on about

david choose exactly what he wanted to do, he choose to stay at 168 fighting plant andrade etc that was his choice, he wanted canelo but canelo was never going to fight him, he never won a world title because canelo had them all, then as soon as the big fight at 175 happens and there is an undisputed champ david demands to fight that guy even tho its clear there will be several fights between bivol and beter with turki cash, so he goes and makes a choice which HE WANT TO DO and for good cash as well v his old sparring partner to go and fight zurdo, noone is waiting for anyone, noone care what david is doing he can do whatever he likes and thats what he does

he wanted canelo with all the belts and couldnt get him, he wants bivol with the belts but bivol is fighting the other top guy at 175, not david but beter, so basically david wants someone else to accumulate the belts and he comes in and fights them at the end, well tough luck, he made his bed, hes not a top guy at 175 so he will have to wait until its sorted or else turki wants the fight before that, its not hard to understand, he and his fans can cry all they want will change nothing

So why ISN'tT Bivol calling out to fight Benavidez for WBC Belt Benavidez took from him? All I hear is excuses, but NOT LETS Fight.

yawn per Fat Dave himself he's in preliminary talks with Top Soviet Bivol

SouthpaRight = =boxingitis

Fat Dave super fans using Top Soviet Bivol as a smokescreen when Fat Dave has a MULTITUDE of excuses for delaying Buff Guy Jai

Fat Dave has shown ZERO urgency to fight Buff Guy Jai SOON

Buff Guy Jai the REAL champ in Fat Dave's new division home in which he's a belt holder

[Theshotyoudontsee]

At this stage Bivol gets beat by Benavidez. Biev tried to box with Bivol and when Bivol kept running I mean moving away Biev got frustrated.

Benavidez has faster hands than Bivol and one thing not often mentioned about Benavidez is his sneakily good head movement. All the "Benavidez has no feet" talk ignores the obvious.

Benavidez walks guys down and beats the s h i t out of them because he sees big shots coming and he rolls with the shot or totally avoids the shots with head movement. And his hands are so fast that when guys are throwing and missing, Benavidez is immediately hitting them with hard counters.

Bivol will have early success but it will be the Plant fight all over again. Benavidez is a master at cutting off the ring and the pressure will get to Bivol inside a few rounds. Benavidez will catch him with a few big shots and Bivol will retreat totally and lose the UD or else he will get f u c k e d up.

Benavidez is only getting beat by a big puncher who is willing to trade and who is great pocket fighter IMO. David eats runners up.