Comments Thread For: Naoya Inoue-Junto Nakatani not a classic, but pure class

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Even if Naoya Inoue-Junto Nakatani wasn't boxing at its apex as a form of entertainment, Eric Raskin explains why Inoue-Nakatani was close to the best boxing could offer as a pure sport.
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[JOITATS]

Hagler/Hearns was the 80's....

We're clearly in an era where fighters are more technical, and defensively responsible.
2 elite guys goin at it, 99% usually end up like a chess match.


It also takes 2 to make that kind of fight.
Out of the top P4P guys, only Inoue & Benevidez have that killer mentality. And they are never gonna fight each other.


Bivol, Usyk, Shakur are are defensive fighters. You will never see them take offensive risks like that.

Shakur X Haney is literally the opposite of a Hagler/Hearns fight.

[No10Point]

I don't see this fight with the same eyes.
I saw someone who is a great fight someone who is good but has major advantages. Size and reach. (8" on both!)

The shorter man was out jabbing the taller man.
Nakatani main goal was not to get KO'd. He fought defensive all but 2 rounds. Never did he act like he came "to take" the prize. And as the challenger., especially in this case, you had best come to take it.

I have posted this before but Rodrguez'es camp never brought up Nakatani,
which is a much easier fight to make over Inoue (115,118,122 champions respectively) because they wanted nothing to do with Nakatani's advantages. (+1 inch against Bam)
Nakatani is good but he has made a career with size advantage. If he moves up to 126 it will be the first time really fighting people his own size.

I do not want to see a rematch as I don't think it is called for.
Will be same outcome.

[daggum]

I don't see this fight with the same eyes.
I saw someone who is a great fight someone who is good but has major advantages. Size and reach. (8" on both!)

The shorter man was out jabbing the taller man.
Nakatani main goal was not to get KO'd. He fought defensive all but 2 rounds. Never did he act like he came "to take" the prize. And as the challenger., especially in this case, you had best come to take it.

I have posted this before but Rodrguez'es camp never brought up Nakatani,
which is a much easier fight to make over Inoue (115,118,122 champions respectively) because they wanted nothing to do with Nakatani's advantages. (+1 inch against Bam)
Nakatani is good but he has made a career with size advantage. If he moves up to 126 it will be the first time really fighting people his own size.

I do not want to see a rematch as I don't think it is called for.
Will be same outcome.

but as you just stated they arent advantages if you dont know or arent able to use them. also bam agreed to fight nakatani last year. nakatai said no and decided to move up to 122 in search of inoue so what you are saying is factually not true. they wanted nothing to do with him except they agreed to figth him...lol

Pressed with a ‘take-it-or-leave-it scenario,’ Rodriguez, 22-0 (15 KOs), and his side immediately agreed to the fight. In fact, they also agreed to the first offered option –the reigning lineal, WBC and IBF bantamweight king Junto Nakatani, 31-0 (24 KOs). Nakatani [via Teiken Promotions] elected to not take the fight. So, [Riyadh Season] offered us Puma Martinez and Bam immediately said yes.”

[Idunnoshet]

but as you just stated they arent advantages if you dont know or arent able to use them. also bam agreed to fight nakatani last year. nakatai said no and decided to move up to 122 in search of inoue so what you are saying is factually not true. they wanted nothing to do with him except they agreed to figth him...lol

Pressed with a ‘take-it-or-leave-it scenario,’ Rodriguez, 22-0 (15 KOs), and his side immediately agreed to the fight. In fact, they also agreed to the first offered option –the reigning lineal, WBC and IBF bantamweight king Junto Nakatani, 31-0 (24 KOs). Nakatani [via Teiken Promotions] elected to not take the fight. So, [Riyadh Season] offered us Puma Martinez and Bam immediately said yes.”

Stop.

Bam , Robert Garcia and Mr. Honda of Teiken promotions never wanted the Junto fight.

It was proposed back when Junto was at 115 and Bam beat Carlos Cuadras at Superfly.

Bam and his team didn't like the figjt for whatever reason so they only fought one more at Superflt then moved bacl down.
So Junto ko's Maloney and went up to Bantamweight.

I don't doubt Bam wants to fight both Inoue and Junto Now.

But I think Alot of that has to do with there being nobody at 115 / 118 that he'll get the kinda payday he would for moving up

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Stop.

Bam , Robert Garcia and Mr. Honda of Teiken promotions never wanted the Junto fight.

It was proposed back when Junto was at 115 and Bam beat Carlos Cuadras at Superfly.

Bam and his team didn't like the figjt for whatever reason so they only fought one more at Superflt then moved bacl down.
So Junto ko's Maloney and went up to Bantamweight.

I don't doubt Bam wants to fight both Inoue and Junto Now.

But I think Alot of that has to do with there being nobody at 115 / 118 that he'll get the kinda payday he would for moving up

huh? they literally agreed to the fight yet you are still saying he never wanted it. that makes no sense. i know you have some story in your head that you think is true but its just a story you or someone else made up. its not actually real or true. reality is they agreed to fight nakatani and it was nakatani that said no and somehow you completely flip that saying he never wanted to fight him? everyone else involved says otherwise including the saudi prince but i guess you have the real story?

Pressed with a ‘take-it-or-leave-it scenario,’ Rodriguez, 22-0 (15 KOs), and his side immediately agreed to the fight. In fact, they also agreed to the first offered option –the reigning lineal, WBC and IBF bantamweight king Junto Nakatani, 31-0 (24 KOs). Nakatani [via Teiken Promotions] elected to not take the fight. So, [Riyadh Season] offered us Puma Martinez and Bam immediately said yes.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/junto-nakatani-was-discussed-for-bam-rodriguez-prior-to-finalizing-martinez-fight

not sure what you mean by "it was proposed" were there any formal offers made to rodriguez for the fight? not that i know of. you mean some people in the media talked about it? some people on forums talked about it? sure. any offers? no. any offers like the one bam accepted and the one nakatani declined? no. was nakatani a top guy when bam left the division? no. hes ducking doe...cause they didnt fight? there are lots of reasons why but they were never even in the same division for more than a couple months and saying he left the divisino to avoid nakatani a guy from japan who he wasnt under any real pressure to fight is just silly. you made it up.

[Idunnoshet]

huh? they literally agreed to the fight yet you are still saying he never wanted it. that makes no sense. i know you have some story in your head that you think is true but its just a story you or someone else made up. its not actually real or true. reality is they agreed to fight nakatani and it was nakatani that said no and somehow you completely flip that saying he never wanted to fight him? everyone else involved says otherwise including the saudi prince but i guess you have the real story?

Pressed with a ‘take-it-or-leave-it scenario,’ Rodriguez, 22-0 (15 KOs), and his side immediately agreed to the fight. In fact, they also agreed to the first offered option –the reigning lineal, WBC and IBF bantamweight king Junto Nakatani, 31-0 (24 KOs). Nakatani [via Teiken Promotions] elected to not take the fight. So, [Riyadh Season] offered us Puma Martinez and Bam immediately said yes.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/junto-nakatani-was-discussed-for-bam-rodriguez-prior-to-finalizing-martinez-fight

not sure what you mean by "it was proposed" were there any formal offers made to rodriguez for the fight? not that i know of. you mean some people in the media talked about it? some people on forums talked about it? sure. any offers? no. any offers like the one bam accepted and the one nakatani declined? no. was nakatani a top guy when bam left the division? no. hes ducking doe...cause they didnt fight? there are lots of reasons why but they were never even in the same division for more than a couple months and saying he left the divisino to avoid nakatani a guy from japan who he wasnt under any real pressure to fight is just silly. you made it up.

You know.
I kinda laugh when I see posters like you arguing an issue they swear they know everything about.

I wont disclose how I know what I know.

But I miss the days where there were actually boxing Insiders on here.

Some of us still lurk for amusement.

[Coverdale]

You know.
I kinda laugh when I see posters like you arguing an issue they swear they know everything about.

I wont disclose how I know what I know.

But I miss the days where there were actually boxing Insiders on here.

Some of us still lurk for amusement.

Ah, the old I'm an insider schtick. Course you are.