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    Comments Thread For: Future is bright for Jarrell Miller-Lenier Pero winner, with or without Oleksander Usyk

    Jarrell Miller and Lenier Pero both know that one great night can lead to a series of big fights as they enter Saturday?s heavyweight eliminator at the Fontainebleau in Las Vegas.
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    To be honest, thinking off the top of my head, there is no one I would immediately bet on to beat Oleksandr, but maybe he's starting to lose interest and will chuck out another belt. I imagine he will keep a grip on his WBC belt as bauble to legitimise future bouts of some type.

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      Pero has been pretty uninspiring and sluggish outside of that fight against Bruzon which was a war of the undefeateds at the time.

      Then he couldn't separate much from Faust who was coming off a knock-down-drag-out brawl against Kiladze. He was constantly whiffing on the wide open big man, fight hung in the balance until he got a freaky liver stoppage that made Faust turn his back and quit standing upright from what I remember. His opponent last fight didn't want any real work after talking big, he came to spoil and Pero just fell into the sloppy, slow pace. Give Miller that kind of pace he's typically going to be there churning away. Does he still have what he showed vs Bruzon. I'd love to see that but right now hard to trust Pero, so it seems close
      Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; Yesterday, 02:31 AM.

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        Originally posted by LA_2_Vegas
        Pero has been pretty uninspiring and sluggish outside of that fight against Bruzon which was a war of the undefeateds at the time.

        Then he couldn't separate much from Faust who was coming off a knock-down-drag-out brawl against Kiladze. He was constantly whiffing on the wide open big man, fight hung in the balance until he got a freaky liver stoppage that made Faust turn his back and quit standing upright from what I remember. His opponent last fight didn't want any real work after talking big, he came to spoil and Pero just fell into the sloppy, slow pace. Give Miller that kind of pace he's typically going to be there churning away. Does he still have what he showed vs Bruzon. I'd love to see that but right now hard to trust Pero, so it seems close
        Since you talking about trusting or not trusting Pero, i will repost my comment i made earlier on a Pero vs Miller thread.

        I remember when i was a kid and i was watching a Cuban Heavyweight i was amazed by him. His movement, reflexes, handspeed and power. Later i heard that he beat Felix Savon twice the first time he was still under 20 years old. He continued to capture gold in 2004 at the Olympics.While i was growing up i followed his development and witnessed him becoming bigger and bigger or should i say fatter and fatter.

        At the point he made it to his World title fight he was the fattest, unfittest version i can remember. His opponent not an easy task Vitali Klitschko.

        Long story short on this day i learned a valuable lesson in my journey as a fan of the sport of Boxing. Never ever trust a Cuban fighter no matter how talented he is or how great his amateur credentials are.

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          Originally posted by Moz_boxing

          Since you talking about trusting or not trusting Pero, i will repost my comment i made earlier on a Pero vs Miller thread.

          I remember when i was a kid and i was watching a Cuban Heavyweight i was amazed by him. His movement, reflexes, handspeed and power. Later i heard that he beat Felix Savon twice the first time he was still under 20 years old. He continued to capture gold in 2004 at the Olympics.While i was growing up i followed his development and witnessed him becoming bigger and bigger or should i say fatter and fatter.

          At the point he made it to his World title fight he was the fattest, unfittest version i can remember. His opponent not an easy task Vitali Klitschko.

          Long story short on this day i learned a valuable lesson in my journey as a fan of the sport of Boxing. Never ever trust a Cuban fighter no matter how talented he is or how great his amateur credentials are.
          Solis I remember lost that fight because Vitali landed a shot, Solis was off balance and his knee buckled under his fatness and he couldn't make it to his feet. Ko rd1 for Vitali as a clean punch landed which caused the KD.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant

            Solis I remember lost that fight because Vitali landed a shot, Solis was off balance and his knee buckled under his fatness and he couldn't make it to his feet. Ko rd1 for Vitali as a clean punch landed which caused the KD.
            You remember correctly. I like the part of his knee buckled under his fatness. He suffered a serious knee injury and i believe him being overweight and unfit did not help : D

            But oh man what a talent that guy was. I still remember some of his amateur fights including the Haye fight. I think in shape he was more a Cruiser than Hw but with the right training he could eventually move up and fight as a agile small heavyweight like Usyk did but he did not have the mental strenght to be disciplined.

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              Originally posted by Spray_resistant

              Solis I remember lost that fight because Vitali landed a shot, Solis was off balance and his knee buckled under his fatness and he couldn't make it to his feet. Ko rd1 for Vitali as a clean punch landed which caused the KD.
              Good call - even if you went in with low expectations of what Solis could do, it still ended as one of the biggest letdowns of a fight and fighter.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Moz_boxing

                Since you talking about trusting or not trusting Pero, i will repost my comment i made earlier on a Pero vs Miller thread.

                I remember when i was a kid and i was watching a Cuban Heavyweight i was amazed by him. His movement, reflexes, handspeed and power. Later i heard that he beat Felix Savon twice the first time he was still under 20 years old. He continued to capture gold in 2004 at the Olympics.While i was growing up i followed his development and witnessed him becoming bigger and bigger or should i say f. atter and fatter.

                At the point he made it to his World title fight he was the fattest, unfittest version i can remember. His opponent not an easy task Vitali Klitschko.

                Long story short on this day i learned a valuable lesson in my journey as a fan of the sport of Boxing. Never ever trust a Cuban fighter no matter how talented he is or how great his amateur credentials are.
                So true and I fall for it all the time. I always come to like a couple of Cuban fighters - like right now, Yoenli is one of my favs, Ronny Alvarez. The most recent crop of Cubans are being advertised as more offensive and not reliant on the AM style and Pero brothers do fit into that mold, but is the laziness kicking in already? His brother Danier was nearly KOed cold in his last fight.

                Semi-good impression of Pero from that fight I mentioned against Bruzon, but it's been lukewarm stuff since. I guess some credit for fighting Faust pretty early on; he solid; and I think the PBC matchmakers were correct in making that fight because he had a ton of opportunities to paste Faust, but he left a lot on the table and it turned out to be a letdown even though he won (he was down on 2 of 3 cards at the time of stoppage).

                I think he can win this fight, should have plenty to hit, but I'll still have to keep expectations low.
                Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; Yesterday, 05:04 PM.

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                  #9
                  Since winning this fight has the potential to generate a title shot, I expect both men to bring it. I got Pero.

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