James Toney the master of the shoulder roll

[TheGreatA]

I've hardly ever heard the terms "Philly Shell" or "Hitman style" used. I believe the crab was the type of defense Archie Moore, Ken Norton and Tim Witherspoon had.

I'd rather use the term shoulder roll because that's effectively what it is.

[Owlzfan84]

he punched to the body as good as anyone.

[djsygo]

[KingTito]

James Toney has mastered the Sweet Science.

[Joe2608]

Middleweight James Toney was insanely good.

[OTSS]

You play fight night too much, its not called the philly shell, ****. Call yourself correcting somebody atleast have your info correct.

[MR.CHICANITO]

On his best night he could beat just about any boxer in history.

yup i agree with you man i love the old james toney at the 160 and 168 weight classes he was awesome to watch just an old school warrior with tons of skills

[Doctor_Tenma]

yeah he invented it.

Wasn't it Archie Moore?

[Bushidō]

Does having a big fist really translate to having a bigger punch?

I'm not sure it does at all... I'd like to see the evidence for this.

Yeah. Bigger fists could mean more mass so it probably helps a bit.

[Left2body]

If James Toney had the dietary and gym discipline of a Mosley, Hopkins or Mayweather he could've very possibly have ended up a true top 5 ATG.