Comments Thread For: Zuffa Boxing announces the eight divisions it will recognize

[Spray_resistant]

SouthpaRight They really do, he is like 6'4 lean muscular 230lbs walking around, he moved up to 205 but really should be fighting heavies.

[drablj]

Obviously I'm not saying this is how it's going to be looking anytime soon, I'm saying it's ultimately what they're aiming for and I support that. If the sanctioning bodies can eventually be phased out and over the next few generations the majority of significant boxers brought under one umbrella, this is eventually akin to what things could look like and I don't see how that's not a drastically marked improvement over the current boxing landscape.

The matchmaking in UFC at its worst is far more rational, rankings-oriented and merit-based than what we have in boxing.

8/9 divisions only existed in the same day weigh in era. that's the key.
zuffa or whoever could in theory make sanctioning bodies irrelevant with bigger purses, lower fees (sanction, promoter, management), higher activity (number of fights per year), bigger exposure and meritocracy. they are NOT doing that. "come fight for us, we offer EVERYTHING better". it would be a no brainer.

[SouthpawRight]

SouthpaRight They really do, he is like 6'4 lean muscular 230lbs walking around, he moved up to 205 but really should be fighting heavies.

Soon

size difference isn’t apparent here. Top Soviet Bivol used to walk 185 whereas Buff Guy Jai has fought at heavy before

[AllHailKingFloyd]

Zuffa should give King Floyd a belt.

[Coverdale]

Again, this is absolute nonsense. You cannot possibly be arguing that eliminating 154 won't make guys cut harder to get to 147.

Some might be foolish enough to attempt it, in the same way Haney cut to lightweight when he obviously should have been fighting at welterweight (as his performance against Norman amply demonstrated). Many would fight at middleweight (as they did historically) and come in fully hydrated.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Like I stated in my previous post, weight draining techniques are logically backwards. And? If fighters ever attempted to apply such techniques under the same day weigh in rule, or force themselves to drop even further from their more natural weight. Then? At some point bad things are going to happen, and fighters will learn via the serve consequences.

Note: It has been historically proven that the fighters in the sport, with the best longevity and endurance 'have been those fighters who have not weight drained themselves. Floyd Mayweather Junior, Bernard Hopkins and Carl Froch are some of the modern day fighters, who stayed close to their fighting weight all year round'.

That is why I stated, if certain modern day fighters feel need to weight drain themselves 'to be the big man in fight night. Then they should get out of the sport, and do something else. Ether before they get smashed up, severely underperform, or collapse. Because that is precisely their trajectory when they start using those training methods as fighters'.

There used to be some game called 'Lemmings' and in this game, the player had to save the 'Lemmings from themselves, because they were lemmings. We can all sit here and describe modern day fighters as courageous, and gladiators but? They are also Lemmings, when they insist on using backwards training methodologies. That are going to damage themselves over the long term'.

To conclude: You keep speaking as if? It is a mandatory for modern day fighters to weight drain themselves. It is not a mandatory, it is just their decision. And at some point in every modern fighter's career predominantly in the lower weight divisions, they all have to decide on whether they are going be old school fighters and fight at their more natural fighting weight. Or if they are going to be backwards fighters, and incorporate the toxic culture of weight draining tactics into their lifestyle'.

The Heavyweight Divisions, may not be as skillful as other division's ' but in terms of pure competition, you want to talk about reality? In reality the Heavyweight Division in boxing post 1980, is the best and more purest form of competition in all of combat sports. Fighters don't weight drain themselves, and they fight at their more natural fighting weight' etc.

[Ultralight]

This is going to be dangerous and lead to more deaths. You're not going to stop guys from cutting weight but just make them cut more weight. They can get away with this in the UFC because fights there are just decided by strikes but with wrestling. Sure they throw kicks and knees which are harder than punches but the frequency is so much less than boxing. And when they get knocked down, it usually goes to the ground and gets stopped quickly. It's going to shorten the careers of so many boxers who age and aren't able to make weight. The UFC doesn't have this problem as much either since the average age of fighters joining the UFC is in the mid to late 20's

[SouthpawRight]

This is going to be dangerous and lead to more deaths. You're not going to stop guys from cutting weight but just make them cut more weight. They can get away with this in the UFC because fights there are just decided by strikes but with wrestling. Sure they throw kicks and knees which are harder than punches but the frequency is so much less than boxing. And when they get knocked down, it usually goes to the ground and gets stopped quickly. It's going to shorten the careers of so many boxers who age and aren't able to make weight. The UFC doesn't have this problem as much either since the average age of fighters joining the UFC is in the mid to late 20's

Spray_resistant weight bully or die trying

[Coverdale]

Nobody is coming into a boxing match fully hydrated in 2026. Get a grip on reality. They're going to cut like UFC fighters cut and we're going to see dudes collapsing on the scales even more than they already do.

This is painfully obvious.

Ortiz and Janibek both ended up hospitalised because of their weight cutting foolishness despite the presence of junior/super divisions. You could implement divisions at each 1lb increment and you would still get fighters cutting too much weight.

[Superbee]

We won't hear about Zuffa in 2 years time... White won't be able to pull all the strings like he does for MMA and the clash with Turki is inevitable...