Why aren’t boxers 230 lb+ called Super heavyweights ?

[WillieWild114]

Boxing analysts and fans love insisting any guy under 240 lb isn’t a natural heavyweight and is a cruiserweight! Did they forget they have boxers weighing 210-230 lean no PED usage either. Also 200 lb+ is naturally still big for a guy ?

[PRINCEKOOL]

In my opinion, there are not that many solid super heavyweights active in boxing 'but there are many heavyweight fighters, who are out of condition. Which the media then claim are Super Heavyweight fighters, because of the number on the weigh in scales'.

I think this a marketing ploy, to dupe certain viewers into believing that 'modern day heavyweight fighters, are more colossal and powerful than ever. But in reality when you really check their physiques and condition, I don't think they are'.

David Haye stated it best, just before his fight against Derek Chisora in 2012 'If Derek Chisora was as lean and solid as me, he would most likely weigh in at a weight closer to myself'.

Derek Chisora was out weighing David Haye by 37 pounds. Haye weighing in at 210 pounds vs. Chisora 247 pounds 'which in this modern era, would be classed a Super Heavyweight fighter'.

Note: David Haye while being outweighed by 37 pounds, met force with force and cancelled out Chisora's momentum 'knocking Derek Chisora out for the first time in his career inside 5 rounds'.

I don't personally classify fighters such as Derek Chisora as genuine Super Heavyweight fighters 'he has been for the majority of his career, a fighter not quite in the condition of past great heavyweight fighters. And this has seen him weighing in at 240 to at times 260 + pounds'.

And the point I am trying to make is? There are many fighters like Derek Chisora in this post 90's boxing era 'fighters like Jermaine Franklin, Moses Itauma, Agit Kabayel none of those fighters are super heavyweights. I don't care, how the media machine try's their best to promote the fighters'.

Lennox Lewis and Rid**** Bowe 'were Super heavyweight fighters. They did not use body building techniques, and their goal in training was not to gain masses of weight. There are not many currently active heavyweight fighters, who are genuine solidly conditioned super heavyweight fighters like Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe or even Wladimir and Vitali Kiltschko'.

There is Anthony Joshua and then Tyson Fury 'they are in my opinion the only two genuine top level premier Super Heavyweights of this era. The rest of them have been terrible fighters, who struggle to move inside the boxing ring and skill for skill they have been very rudimentary fighters'.

Tyson Fury when he was in solid condition, was 248 pounds vs. Wladimir Kiltschko 'the reason why he gained masses of weight later in his career, was because? He did not want to train in the manner in which he used to under Peter Fury. Tyson Fury even stated this before his rematch vs. Deontay Wilder. Fury consciously altered his training methods, and in a interview with Gareth A. Davis he stated in his own words that he was going to embrace being a Super Heavyweight fighter'.

It was a tactical career move by Tyson Fury, which aided in him staying competitive 'at that stage of his career. Similar to how Muhammad Ali altered his style after his rematch vs. Ken Norton in 1973. Instead of floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee, Muhammad Ali for the remainder of his career chose to fight out of a more rigid and static stance. And used more of his mid to inside fighting capabilities combined with intricate defense'.

To conclude: Overall for me personally I don't think there are many genuine solidly conditioned Super Heavyweight fighters active in the sport. But there are many Heavyweight fighters, that are not quite in solid condition which then produces a number on the weigh in scales which the media machine has then claimed them to be Super Heavyweight fighters. That is how this era has been promoted, this colossal modern Super Heavyweight era'.

In past great Heavyweight eras, if the fighters were not in condition 'they would have not been called Super Heavyweight fighters. They would have just been rated as out of condition. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua when you really analyse this era, they have been the only two premier and consistent Super Heavyweight fighters at top level after the Kiltschko era of Heavyweight boxing' etc.

[ODLH Chicano Goat]

Uh, hello...that would be insensitive af. Fat shaming has no place in the sport of boxing.

[Spray_resistant]

Uh, hello...that would be insensitive af. Fat shaming has no place in the sport of boxing.

Which is why we should have no weightclasses at all in the name of inclusivity.